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Canon ten most powerful Jedi and Sith.

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11.22.2012 , 09:39 AM | #121
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The Exile simply has a more powerful ability than Revan and some form of mastery over the Light Side of the Force.
You have no proof of that and Keira was not attacking when Exile used that move . Force Sever has NEVER been USED while the user was in Combat PERIOD . Exile Followed Revan to her death , and never strayed from it . People never follow someone lesser than themselves to their deaths . She believed Revan to be more than herself and she gave her life in that Belief as she would have done manytimes before !
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11.22.2012 , 09:41 AM | #122
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In the grand picture he is in the mid to high category, in his own time he was a prodigy.

Than that Mid to high Prodigy was followed by people you are claiming to be more powerful and better , but none of them ever stepped up to be .
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11.22.2012 , 09:45 AM | #123
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Than that Mid to high Prodigy was followed by people you are claiming to be more powerful and better , but none of them ever stepped up to be .
The Exile stopped following Revan once Malachor V had happened and openly agreed with the council afterwards, it was only when T3-M4 revealed that the true Sith had captured Revan did she decide to go after him.

Also Nihilus and Sion would defeat him, Nihilus only died because he fed off of something almost as empty of the force as he was and Sion can't die, it took his love for the Exile to kill him.

Kun is basically on another level.

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11.22.2012 , 09:46 AM | #124
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Being The Exile and Nihilus both followed Revan at one time , it would be worth pointing out that they seemed to see him as something worthy of his command . Never in our own history have we let anyone Average lead us in War , and that is to also be said in SW .
Revan if a Average Jedi , lead a Sith Empire of what I guess was Below Average Force Users . Malek must have been weak in Combat as he let a AVERAGE Jedi cut his jaw off , and fear Revan so much he had to wait till Revan was Fending off 4-5 Jedi from killing him to launch his attack and try to kill Revan aboard his Flag ship .

Revan was such a Average Force User the Emperor had poor taste in whom to drain for 300 years as he picked Revan to be that person .
Revan was a such a Average person that he was able to keep the emperor from dominating the Galaxy and influanced him into a treaty that he would not have done otherwise .
^Man that Emperor and his weak mind to be controlled by such a AVERAGE Jedi .
Scourage must be Average aswell , as he had to hide behind Meetra and Revan to do something he thought he could not do himself .

So I guess Revan was a Average Jedi who was amongst the most Below Average Jedi/SIth of his time , my bad !

Well so we are told by the know everythin[g beyond opinion people who say Revan was Average .I mean who are we to argue with the employees of Leland Chee who besides George Lucas for the last decade would be the only people to say who wins what . I must have missed the Convention where they said Revan was a Average ,Below Average, or above Average Jedi as it keeps being repeated over and over in these threads . Or do these people think they have a HIGHER input than Leland Chee ?
Huh. Interesting way to look at it.

But let's not get into who is better between Revan and Surik.
They ARE canonically very close to eachother in power level. However I think a better argument could be made for Revan being more powerful.

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11.22.2012 , 09:47 AM | #125
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You have no proof of that and Keira was not attacking when Exile used that move . Force Sever has NEVER been USED while the user was in Combat PERIOD .
Yes I do, it's stated outright in the campaign guide which is listed as C-Canon that the Exile froze traya on the spot through a simultaneous cut to the wrist and a loss of all her power, it killed her, as she could no longer take the damage already inflicted.

Oh and Nihilus did as well, instantaneously, the first time Traya was severed.

Oh and so did Nomi Sunrider.

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11.22.2012 , 09:49 AM | #126
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The Exile stopped following Revan once Malachor V and openly agreed with the council afterwards, it was only when T3-M4 revealed that the true Sith had captured Revan did she decide to go after him.

Also Nihilus and Sion would defeat him, Nihilus only died because he fed off of something almost as empty of the force as he was and Sion can't die, it took his love for the Exile to kill him.

Kun is basically on another level.
Okay, beating Nihilus and Sion doesn't speak of Meetra's power. Beating Nihilus wouldn't help Meetra in any other scenario. Same for Sion.

Is anyone else gonna try and "feed" off of Meetra? Is anyone else gonna fall in love with her? Sorry but this just doesn't support your argument.

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11.22.2012 , 09:55 AM | #127
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The Exile stopped following Revan once Malachor V and openly agreed with the council afterwards, it was only when T3-M4 revealed that the true Sith had captured Revan did she decide to go after him.
No she didn't , as Revan was apart of the Convo in atleast 25% of KotoR2 , and yea she left to join him after she learned he was Captured but nothing is said she wouldn't have anyways if he wasn't .
Also Nihilus and Sion would defeat him, Nihilus only died because he fed off of something almost as empty of the force as he was and Sion can't die, it took his love for the Exile to kill him.
Nihilius followed Revan PreMalachor V , his move was also not on Demand like you would like it too be . As for Scion , he was a never dieing Creature of the Force but his skills are not anything special . Truely just opinions of your behalf .
Kun is basically on another level.
Kun was before Revan was even born , and I won't argue with this one being really there is NOTHING to say otherwise . But being there is NOTHING to say on this one the Debat is really just OPINION .
Sorry but Anakin was the most powerful in the Force but due to his lack in training he lost fights to Obi-Wan > Starkiiler x2 > and thought he could not beat the Emperor on his own and if the Emperor was not distracted on Luke , likely by OPINION he would have killed Vader . As Vader's win over the Emperor cost him his own life as well.

So in the end we have no clue on what Revan would do in these "FIGHTS" or "COMPAIRISONS" as all we have is Canon Lore of What REVAN did but not what skills , abilities , powers he had or mastered .
He was a Jedi Knight but doesn't mean he did not master anything and he was RESPECTED ENOUGH that the EMPEROR kept him alive for 300 years period , not Meetra .
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11.22.2012 , 09:59 AM | #128
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Yes I do, it's stated outright in the campaign guide which is listed as C-Canon that the Exile froze traya on the spot through a simultaneous cut to the wrist and a loss of all her power, it killed her, as she could no longer take the damage already inflicted.
Keira was not attacking , she stopped and ran her mouth as she usually does .
Oh and Nihilus did as well, instantaneously, the first time Traya was severed.
He used it while Traya was being pinned down by Scion , again not in combat himself.
Oh and so did Nomi Sunrider.
When did Nomi use it on the get go ? Ulic Qel-Droma at the point she used it was not fighting it and certainly not attacking her.

To be honest , if Exile had a bigger following . You would be on the Defensive all day to these comments you are making . Like the Revan Fans who think he was Master of Light and Dark .
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11.22.2012 , 10:05 AM | #129
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Okay, beating Nihilus and Sion doesn't speak of Meetra's power. Beating Nihilus wouldn't help Meetra in any other scenario. Same for Sion.

Is anyone else gonna try and "feed" off of Meetra? Is anyone else gonna fall in love with her? Sorry but this just doesn't support your argument.
I am supporting Nihilus and Sion here, but if you really want to go down that road:

The Exile had unlocked and harnessed fully the light side of the force.
She single-handedly wiped out the entire Trayus Academy on Malachor V the greatest source of dark side energy active at the time, which knocked her sick and almost delirious.
She was such a natural at Sever Force that Vima Sunrider actively had to teach her to control her power as a padawan learner and eventually used it so quickly that it was a checkmate in battle.
She learnt a moving battle meditation that was combined with a very deep meditative state that had Kreia and Mical stunned, she did not even have to concentrate upon it to be used, it was constant.
She had Echani battle precognition.
Had learnt how to completely block her own thoughts and simultaneously invade the minds of others with ease.
Learned the light-saber forms Shii-Cho, Makashi and Soresu to such a degree that even the Jedi Masters were amazed.
Had learned how to see without eyes through the Force as the Miraluka could.
Had defeated five fully-trained Echani battle sisters at once.
Defeated the entirety of the Mandalorian battle circle.
And was so strong in battle meditation that she won the Onderon Civil War for the losing Queen Talia.
Was the only Jedi on record to actively use an offensive style of Dun Moch.
And last but not least, her force bonds were so powerful that she had actively trained six nobodies in the force into full Jedi Knights and eventual Masters in the space of under two standard months.

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11.22.2012 , 10:06 AM | #130
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Okay, beating Nihilus and Sion doesn't speak of Meetra's power. Beating Nihilus wouldn't help Meetra in any other scenario. Same for Sion.

Is anyone else gonna try and "feed" off of Meetra? Is anyone else gonna fall in love with her? Sorry but this just doesn't support your argument.
How Scion Died was lame but to behonest , KotoR II was very Marvel Comics like with Nihilius and Scion . Probably the first time I seen such a Push in extremes when it came to how the Characters looked and why they were who they were .
Nihilius was empty and a victim to his own hunger.
Scion could not die and his body was scared beyond repair.
I like KotoRII and surely love Nihilus's character more than Revan's but KotoRII stretch was likely caused the issues with LA . The game was fun and I still play it , Darth Traya's betrayal scene is probably my favorite clip/movie scene in any SW game/Movie/Cartoon............etc
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