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Battlemaster Gear is Gone in 1.6

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Battlemaster Gear is Gone in 1.6

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Hambunctious
11.21.2012 , 09:54 PM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by SOULCASTER View Post
Of course they will. There is a new tier of gear coming out. Duh.

And how do the devs see this as a successful pvp model? You spend weeks/months grinding gear, only for it to be deleted or handed out at 1/3rd of the price with the next update, and then they make a NEW set for you to grind with a miniscule stat boost. Is everyone to retarded to see that this is not a healthy balance NOR a form a content?

I miss my sandbox SWG. This themepark mindless gear grind is just lulzy. I can't believe people like this style of gameplay.

And for the record, no I am not too lazy to grind. I just made my 5th level 50 last night and my other 4 chars are geared. I just am not fooled by this stupid gear grind model as a form of content like the rest of you seem to be.

I seriously, seriously hope this trend of making new suits and replacing old suits ends with this last update. This will not work if this continues.
I'm with you on that. It was so refreshing to play a game where you could have the stats you wanted on your gear by level 20, and then spend your time doing things that were actually fun.

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QuietGoneJinn
11.21.2012 , 09:55 PM | #52
Where's the reward for people that grinded to WH? Seems like they're going to be discouraging a lot of players by retroactively punishing people that earned it.

Basically makes you feel like you wasted your time grinding the gear, because now people who didn't are just being handed what took you weeks/months to attain.

"It took you 2 weeks and 3,000 Ranked Comms (nearly 9k WZ Comms) to get that Gear? Cool story, bro! I just played 5 games and bought it for 1,000 WZ comms!"


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fungihoujo
11.21.2012 , 09:55 PM | #53
Disinteresting I guess. Can't say I'm impressed on any scale- but I've always liked pvp which was more about skill than time spent grinding. If it's a smaller difference that's good- but it still ultimately means people who have more time get an advantage, which means the pvp is still not competitive.

Ah well. Nothing can be done about it. It's expected from games like this that gear is the most important thing, and time is the biggest factor in getting it. I don't see why BW is insisting on using this system when it is becoming increasingly unpopular along the majority of players.

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TrumpetNut
11.21.2012 , 09:58 PM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by Zunayson View Post
I hope BM gear becomes the new recruit gear or something haha, Recruit -> war hero is still horrible
Yes recruit is good and War hero used to be soooo much better than anything else. Now though.... Battlemaster MUST go in the place of recruit or else these forums will be filled up. Recruit gear wll not be to big of an issue for the good players but for many reg-sucky players it could be a source of many huge issues.

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DroidDreamer
11.21.2012 , 10:40 PM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by CharterMonkKent View Post
the grind is still there but the difference between the gear stats (aka gear gap) is substantially reduced. Someone did the math and it appears the gap between WH and EWH is at most 3.8% (if you focus enhancements to one stat). That is a significant improvement over the current gap between BM and WH. And maybe just as important... there will be only a short period of time between Recruit/BM and WH.

Does that make sense?
As one of those who "complains" about the gear gap, I'm delighted by the news. Don't mind the grind being rewarded with moderate boost in power but the gap is presently too great. This new gear structure, with EWH being moderately better than WH, together with the previous improvement to recruit gear is a welcome change. The devs said they would address this issue and I looks like they are delivering. We shall see the results as implemented, of course, but the news seems positive.

Not crazy about regrinding everything, of course, but with less of a gear gap to be competitive maybe it won't be as bad. Maybe it will lead to less matches being decided from the start by gear. Wild fantasies, I know.
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GARhenus
11.22.2012 , 12:15 AM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by QuietGoneJinn View Post
Where's the reward for people that grinded to WH? Seems like they're going to be discouraging a lot of players by retroactively punishing people that earned it.
you get to kick more *** before 1.6 comes, plus you have every WH piece you need to trade in for the EWH set, aka early advantage

by the time they have their WH set, you'll be in complete/near complete, optimized EWH gear

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XunamoR
11.22.2012 , 05:26 AM | #57
Didn't read all posts but, when is this change to be expected? 1 week? 1 month? Clues?

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Wookubus
11.22.2012 , 05:54 AM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by GARhenus View Post
you get to kick more *** before 1.6 comes, plus you have every WH piece you need to trade in for the EWH set, aka early advantage

by the time they have their WH set, you'll be in complete/near complete, optimized EWH gear
no becuse i have to do the 3-1 ratio grind while they go 1-1....... i might have 3 or 4 EWH pieces by th time they get full wh....

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SOULCASTER
11.22.2012 , 08:30 AM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by Wookubus View Post
my issue is with wh now being aquired via regular comms... and bypassing the 3-1 ratio grind i just had to go through to get my full wh set. in 1.6 all wh geared people get dropped down a level and everythng u just did is wiped, your essentially battle master again and u have to do it all over...... again

seems like im getting cheated out of MY TIME.. which being subcribed in any MMO means MY MONEY... to which i take great offense to...
At least someone here has figured out that this bait-and-switch uber gear regrind method is straight pathetic.

Anyone who likes this gear re-grind method for an MMO is a mindless mmo junkie. This isn't content, its a waste of life.
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Przemo_No
11.22.2012 , 08:57 AM | #60
still a question for me is what happens to the Battlemaster gear one is actually wearing?

It will disappear? Or be "changed" into WH? I mean ON the character actually wearing it everyday.

Does the change meant that now one have to grind the WH as it was for BM and then again have more grind for Elite?
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