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They are already discussing milking the subscribers

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Soluss
11.20.2012 , 03:39 PM | #591
Quote: Originally Posted by Xatasha View Post
It has to be one huge planet to let you go from 50 to 55 don't you think?
Not really, most of the planets can and will get you 5 levels easily. If you do everything on them you can get more then 5 levels.
James Ohlen: " For 2012 we really want players to feel like they're getting their money's worth. You're going to see so many changes and additions to the Star Wars Universe. It's going to be impressive. We have our Update 1.2 coming in the next week and then after that it's going to continue to roll out month after month. It's exciting."

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Xecryo
11.20.2012 , 03:58 PM | #592
Well I guess it depends. If it costs cartel coins I have little problem since subs get CCs every month. But I wouldn't want to buy a box that only has one planet. Either way if it's not a given for subs and only one planet it would have be be a great long planet with an awesome story (and with class stories of course). SO yeah I guess depending on what they do it could either be ok or outright awesome. Even if we do pay CCs subs will still have it pretty good and could probably get the content without paying beyond the sub.

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SaijaRii
11.20.2012 , 05:12 PM | #593
God five more levels of this game's horrendous leveling experience.
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Clevelandboy
11.20.2012 , 05:13 PM | #594
Quote: Originally Posted by Soluss View Post
I know the fans will come in and say... well its an expansion, of course we should pay extra for it. Sorry but 1 planet and a 5 level increase is not an expansion. Its a way to justify milking more money. This is the type of content that we should have gotten all along.
Check WoW, 1 zone 5 lvls and a new race = xpack.... So if we get 1 planet, 5 lvls and a new race then it is an xpack if that is what they want to call it. SWG did the same thing with its last xpack before it crashed and burned. 1 planet 5 lvls and no new races in that one but people still paid for it. I don't care if they charge me or not. I will still play the game and pay for the xpack if i need to..

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Soluss
11.20.2012 , 05:23 PM | #595
Quote: Originally Posted by Clevelandboy View Post
Check WoW, 1 zone 5 lvls and a new race = xpack.... So if we get 1 planet, 5 lvls and a new race then it is an xpack if that is what they want to call it. SWG did the same thing with its last xpack before it crashed and burned. 1 planet 5 lvls and no new races in that one but people still paid for it. I don't care if they charge me or not. I will still play the game and pay for the xpack if i need to..
Might want to check what else came with WoW expansions and Rifts expansion and EQ2s expansions etc... It was far more then 1 zone, a race and 5 levels.
James Ohlen: " For 2012 we really want players to feel like they're getting their money's worth. You're going to see so many changes and additions to the Star Wars Universe. It's going to be impressive. We have our Update 1.2 coming in the next week and then after that it's going to continue to roll out month after month. It's exciting."

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Scovina
11.20.2012 , 05:29 PM | #596
Quote: Originally Posted by Soluss View Post
I know the fans will come in and say... well its an expansion, of course we should pay extra for it. Sorry but 1 planet and a 5 level increase is not an expansion. Its a way to justify milking more money. This is the type of content that we should have gotten all along.
Tell that to any other mmo that has ever done so. If it is done properly there could be a lot of content come from one planet. Not to mention any other add ins that come with it. So I have to say yes one planet and 5 levels can definitely be an expansion. Just because they are adding one planet doesn't mean they can't change how they show them off. A new war zone, a few new flash points. It could work so before you flip out let's see what they offer first.

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Macheath
11.20.2012 , 06:12 PM | #597
Quote: Originally Posted by Soluss View Post
Might want to check what else came with WoW expansions and Rifts expansion and EQ2s expansions etc... It was far more then 1 zone, a race and 5 levels.
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The Burning Crusade:
- Level cap raised 10 levels (60 -> 70).
- New quest area (Outland).
- New raids (plural, there were 5 new raids in the launch of BC.)
- Multiple new Heroic dungeons.
- A new Battleground (Eye of the Storm).
- A new Arena system.
- Open world PvP objectives.
- 2 new races (which, let's face it, is harder than BioWare implementing new races, since these races have entire storylines built around their respective peoples. In ToR, it's as easy as a facial reskin.)

Wrath of the Lich King:
- Level cap raised by 10 (70 -> 80).
- New quest area (Northrend).
- 3 New PvE raids.
- 1 new PvP raid.
- Multiple new Heroic dungeons.
- New "Hero" Class (Death Knight).
- A new Battleground (Strand of the Ancients).

Cataclysm:
- Level cap raised by 5 levels.
- New high level zones.
- Environmental redesign of existing zones, complete with "thousands'" (claims Blizzard, I've never counted ) of new PvE and PvP quests for those zones.
- New open-world PvP questing area.
- 2 new PvP Battlegrounds.
- A new PvP instanced dungeon.
- 4 new raids.
- Multiple new Heroic dungeons.
- 2 new races.
- New talents and spells for existing classes.

Mists of Pandaria:
- Level cap raised by 5 levels.
- New continent, as well as new leveling areas throughout the world.
- 3 new raids.
- Multiple new Heroic dungeons.
- A new class.
- A new race.
- Complete overhaul of talent system.
- Pet battles.

So... let's recap, shall we? Each and every expansion featured a level cap increase, new quest content, multiple new raids, new PvP content (except Mists, apparently), plus a smattering of additional goodies. And let's not forget, they were releasing content in between these major expansions as well; content which was free of additional charge to subscribers.

-Macheath.
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CrazedScotsman
11.20.2012 , 06:18 PM | #598
Just one planet and a five level increase? They better not charge subscribers for it. I'll cancel my subscription over something like that.

Now, if they decide to expand the Galaxy to 10 planets and increase the level cap to 60, I'd pay $39.99 for that type of an expansion. Not one planet though, they can slob the knob if they expect me to pay extra for an update.
It's easier to get forgiveness than it is to get permission

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Taareth
11.20.2012 , 06:23 PM | #599
I was going to reason it depends how many hours it lasts you but no. There is no point paying a sub if we are paying for zones as well. If we are paying for zones as well we might as well go f2p with a cash shop.

Pricing in that case needs to be on average play time, say a couple of characters, and stick with it as a rule, whatever that average pricing is.

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Andryah
11.20.2012 , 06:25 PM | #600
Quote: Originally Posted by Durasturan View Post
The fact that subscribers should HAVE to to use a real world currency to purchase anything extra is in itself exploitive. I pay a sub, I should access to all the stuff that sub money was used to create.
That is what your cartel coin allowance for your monthly sub is for. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEND REAL WORLD CURRENCY!!!!!

Yeesh.
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