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Same gender relationships clarifications?

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Same gender relationships clarifications?
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Tatile
11.18.2012 , 06:06 PM | #3141
Quote: Originally Posted by ChristieZhivkova View Post
I would like to know, have they made this option available? I mean same gender romance? Because I can't find it anywhere and there is no certain way to check it either...
Nope, not available. You would not be able to miss the anti-outcry if it had been made available.

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natashina
11.19.2012 , 03:37 AM | #3142
I'm going to tread with some serious care here.

First off, I want to say, again, that this game is not for kids. It has the rating that it does for a reason. If a parent feels their child is too young to understand homosexuality, then they are too young for this game. Violence and cruelty are easier to explain from what I've been told, but that doesn't mean that LGBT content should change the rating system. In fact, the ratings won't once SGRAs go Live.

In the US, the game is given the "T" rating for Violence, Blood and Gore, Mild Language & Sexual Themes. The ESRB does not consider LGBT content a reason to give the game a higher rating. They've even said that homosexual romance content is not treated any different from heterosexual romance content when it comes to the rating system.


In Europe, The Pan European Game Information rating system is quite similar to the one used in the US by the ESRB. According to the PEGI, this game is rated 16+ for realistic looking violence, with sexuality not even mentioned. For more information about PEGI, check out their website here and here for all PEGI ratings related to the Old Republic line of games.

Secondly, the players in this gaming thread are not in the best position to offer RL advice on how to handle such talks with children. This isn't such a place as it is a "T" for Teen video game forum board. This is a thread asking for clarity on the murky information given to us by EA/BW specifically.

There should be some really excellent sites out there to help parents talk to their kids about topics such as this. The best advice I can personally give is that if it feels like blind hate coming from the kids(like with that lovely word that's slang for a cigarette,) a parent needs to sit them down and explain why hating people without meeting them is wrong and as well as how slurs can really hurt someone. As far as any peer pressure goes, that I can't help with, other than to suggest talking to the other parents if possible.

Enough with the insults please. We're all adults here, at least in theory. Don't belittle us, I won't belittle you (you as a general term.) There is more than just a handful of people that want this content. I can send you the links from the incarnations of this thread going back to January and there is certainly more than 300 people.

Also, please ease up on the whole, "Rainbow" stuff guys. It'll just start a crap fest throwing around more so than it has. Even those that oppose this content are pointing that out, and it's a reasonable point in this case. Many of us are frustrated, pissed off and defensive on both sides of this.

I can completely agree about why the defensive nature exists in the thread and there has been some great explanations for it as well. Just try to remember (by everyone in general) insults by supporters aren't cool either, and things are tense enough.

My goodness I hope EA/BW releases some info soon. Those that hate it and those that want this content need to know what's going on. If they think this debating and fighting here and there is bad, this is nothing compared to down the road, when SGRs hit (hopefully in 1.6) They need to address the players now more than ever. Just wish they'd stop being so fearful of it, especially after the recent LGBT article about EA.

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Uluain
11.19.2012 , 02:18 PM | #3143
I am not here to argue or push an agenda or anything. Right now, I am just here to ask whether Stephen Reid's and Daniel Erickson's prior statements on same-gender content still hold true under the current development plan.

That's not a lot to want clarified. It is in fact pitifully little. Fed up with asking. I don't like this game anymore, and it is how this issue is being disregarded that has soured me on all of the rest.

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Lent_San
11.19.2012 , 03:04 PM | #3144
Quote: Originally Posted by natashina View Post

Enough with the insults please. We're all adults here, at least in theory. Don't belittle us, I won't belittle you (you as a general term.) There is more than just a handful of people that want this content. I can send you the links from the incarnations of this thread going back to January and there is certainly more than 300 people.
*applause*

I love how this always seems to be their argument... "but there are so few of YOU, and WE are the silent majority......."

Nope.

I do think DarkTrooperV is a good example of how straight peeps enjoy playing the homosexual storylines. I'm a straight female and like playing them. I've come to love Bioware because they found a way of implementing them so seamlessly, aside from the overall gorgeousness of their games.

Quote: Originally Posted by Uluain View Post
That's not a lot to want clarified. It is in fact pitifully little. Fed up with asking. I don't like this game anymore, and it is how this issue is being disregarded that has soured me on all of the rest.
But..... this is correct also. I really wanted to love this game but as things stand now, there's just a big chunk missing. The prospect of LGBT content or SGRA was essential for me getting into the game, since I'm not even a huge Star Wars fan but a big fan of Bioware's storytelling.

No SGRs, no game for me, sorry Bioware.

In that case I'll rather wait for Dragon Age III or whatever comes next in the Mass Effect franchise, my fave game ever.

But I guess, should you drop SGRs for this one, there will always remain a slight regret of you not making it happen despite telling us you would.

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Palar
11.19.2012 , 03:05 PM | #3145
Godwinning yourself in the first sentence... yeah, you clearly hate overused fallacies.

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BlazingShadow
11.19.2012 , 03:12 PM | #3146
Quote: Originally Posted by Palar View Post
Godwinning yourself in the first sentence... yeah, you clearly hate overused fallacies.
Did not say I hated them, just that trying to shut off dissent using said phrases is, well, pathetic. Also, I did not call them fallacies but described them as being fallacious, fallacious meaning "false notion" in this case. There is a difference.

Thanks for playing.

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Rayla_Felana
11.19.2012 , 03:21 PM | #3147
Don't bother replying, he(I'm assuming) comes in every now and again and flames this topic, don't bother, it's the same argument with the same outcome.

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Uluain
11.19.2012 , 03:29 PM | #3148
Quote: Originally Posted by Lent_San View Post
But..... this is correct also. I really wanted to love this game but as things stand now, there's just a big chunk missing. The prospect of LGBT content or SGRA was essential for me getting into the game, since I'm not even a huge Star Wars fan but a big fan of Bioware's storytelling.

No SGRs, no game for me, sorry Bioware.
At this point, for me it is no longer about the absent content but all about how discussion of this content was handled on the part of BioWare. In handling this controversial subject particularly, to take a stance of silence and invisibility is not just poorly considered, but farcically insensitive.

Bringing out the content yesterday won't change that. Talking to us might. Honestly, I'm not sure myself what a satisfactory resolution would be at this point. But the status quo for the past what is it now, ten months? is not remotely satisfactory. And it's pushing me away from the game.

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JamesDisaster
11.19.2012 , 06:16 PM | #3149
Yeah what's going on?? Is this still coming in the game? I've been not playing alts because this isn't in yet.
"Away put your weapon. I mean you no harm."

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Uluain
11.19.2012 , 06:18 PM | #3150
And I've not been playing at all because they won't tell us anything and in fact, so far as these forums go, they never have.

Not one more dime, EA/Bioware. Got that? Talk to us.