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[PvP Guide] Wakaworld: Your resource for advanced Sith Assassin/Jedi Shadow strategy!

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[PvP Guide] Wakaworld: Your resource for advanced Sith Assassin/Jedi Shadow strategy!

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EatenByDistance
11.14.2012 , 02:52 PM | #111
Quote: Originally Posted by Semihazah View Post
Q.: could you please give me a fast breakdown on priorities for what stats go for. You do write about it, but my head was spinning in the end, and I truly don't get it.
just emulate what is in my armory, I can't get any more specific or direct than that
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Quote: Originally Posted by Xerain
...and the only person who doesn't think so is some B-team assassin DPS who is just dragging his team down by playing the incorrect spec.

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VicturusTeSaluto
11.19.2012 , 01:12 AM | #112
what do you guys like to have for expertise on this build? i recently tried a 1390exp build... custom offhand armorings in belt and bracers... really felt like i was losing dps and gaining damage mitigation that was not needed compared with no pve stuff at all. one of my buddies insisted that full exp was the way to go and that his guild requires at least 1300exp for ranked. for me it seemed like my burst suffered badly stacking expertise.

on the other side i have put resolve 27 armorings in belt and bracers, even offhand too sometimes. and always power crystals. leaves me with 1156exp and a ton of bonus damage.

i think the power crystals are a must at least. it is interesting that they actually made the EWH armoring actually have better stats now so that may be worth keeping in the focus, too bad its slot bound.

shinarika recommended about 1100exp in her guide, but i think a big factor in that was that she used the black hole focus since there was no slotted version to optimize so perhaps around 1200 currently?

fully optimized wh and 2 power crystals gives me 1308exp. add in 2 27 armorings that is 1208... put one in offhand also and thats down to 1156.

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EatenByDistance
11.19.2012 , 02:24 AM | #113
Quote: Originally Posted by VicturusTeSaluto View Post
one of my buddies insisted that full exp was the way to go and that his guild requires at least 1300exp for ranked
that guild is a joke then lol

All of your questions are answered in the itemization section.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Xerain
...and the only person who doesn't think so is some B-team assassin DPS who is just dragging his team down by playing the incorrect spec.

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VicturusTeSaluto
11.19.2012 , 02:47 AM | #114
I dont really see much of an itemization section... Just a link to your character build on mr robot which doesn't tell me anything new about assassin gearing- except that your gear looks to be slightly less optimized than mine currently is. I have 27 pve armorings(your 27 armoring is actually the high endurance one on there?), more of the 40 power EWH mods etc... I will post later for you to have a look at. I do see that you have 1199 expertise on that build. I think I may be shooing for ~1200.

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EatenByDistance
11.19.2012 , 03:03 AM | #115
Quote: Originally Posted by VicturusTeSaluto View Post
I dont really see much of an itemization section... Just a link to your character build on mr robot which doesn't tell me anything new about assassin gearing- except that your gear looks to be slightly less optimized than mine currently is.
well that's just all blatanty wrong but ok

p.s. can't get 27 resolve armorings on my server yet
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Quote: Originally Posted by Xerain
...and the only person who doesn't think so is some B-team assassin DPS who is just dragging his team down by playing the incorrect spec.

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VicturusTeSaluto
11.19.2012 , 03:07 AM | #116
if its wrong then you must have included the wrong gear for your own character build.

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iesnbold
11.20.2012 , 12:43 PM | #117
Been running the spec for the last weeks, opening burst is ridic, even if I need to learn to hold it sometime and not just to auto use it whenever I can.

With the HK event and the necessity for people to go to the Outlaw Den to get a piece, the place has gotten a lot of attention, making it a gathering for people wanting to duel, or fight in small or even large groups. Needless to say that the spec has been doing amazingly well. Some of the best guilds in my server randomly go there, which never happens.

The brutality of the opening burst, combine with the fact that you come out of stealth, make even decent/good players do rookie mistakes as they panick to see their health bar down to half when they have not done noticeable damage to me.

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VicturusTeSaluto
11.21.2012 , 06:18 PM | #118
So here is my current gearing... http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/characte...b-8fde88d85bc2 does it show up for you?

The only variation I have on that gear is that I also have a third advanced resolve 27 armoring that was in the offhand that I replaced with the EWH armoring because the stats on that armoring are now slightly better than regular war hero as before they were slightly worse.

As far as the issue of expertise, my friend was totally wrong and I am surprised at the bad advice. I played a full evening with a full exp build(1390 exp). I was still doing lots of damage, but I was getting less kills as it was harder to burst down a target before they could react- the burst seemed to suffer. I did seem to have more survivability but you really only need that with this spec if you are playing dumb.

Then I played a night with all pvp mods except the crystals which I replaced with +41 power and this was a noticeable boost. I feel that this is the best way to optimize your gear with pve mods because the power crystals are very cheap and it is a 1:1 trade of expertise for power(the best stat to boost damage).

I then added the advanced resolve 27 armorings back to belt/bracers instead of the WH armorings and played for a night and saw a further boost and was able to burst down targets very easily just like before I tried the full exp build. This is the build that I linked and it is one of the best I have played so far. It is of note that compared to the WH offhand armorings you are losing 50exp and gaining 36 willpower by using the resolve 27 armorings. It is going to be less of a boost item for item than switching out the crystals.

I havent made the judgement call as to whether it is worth it to have the resolve 27 armoring in the offhand.

Looking forward to replacing the rest of my mods/enhancements with EWH versions- and the armorings too once the patch hits.

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TheRealLuxford
11.21.2012 , 10:35 PM | #119
Great post. The op knows what he is talking about. I tried it on my shadow and was ripping people apart. Hopfully he can post a video. After playing this spec for a bit i went back to my fresh 50 sent because I wasn't skilled enough
Or smart enough to keep it up. I prefer leaping across the map and hitting groups of geared players for 7k.

Seriously great detailed guide, thumbs up

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EatenByDistance
11.23.2012 , 04:32 PM | #120
hey I know I said I would update guide soon but college op. Spending weekend at home aka I have good internet and can make videos. I plan on uploading some dueling vids and general commentary sometime soon. Have some people lined up to help me and stuff.

don't know how much I'll be able to do but I haven't abandoned this guide and I do plan on updating it asap

videos should be coming by the end of this weekend at the latest hopefully
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Quote: Originally Posted by Xerain
...and the only person who doesn't think so is some B-team assassin DPS who is just dragging his team down by playing the incorrect spec.