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Stupid F2P Restrictions


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iamnuff
11.15.2012 , 05:48 PM | #521
so...


prefered players can only hold 350k credits,


what happens when my sub runs out then? the rest of it gets stolen from me?


i know there has to be restrictions, but seriously, 2 character slots?


thats on preferred player too

hell, preferred players should get ALL the unlocks, (but you only get preferred player if you were subbed for more than 2 months or something)

but making us PAY for our freaking hotbars back?

and dont even get me started on the cargo hold or the crew skills


not cool bioware

seriously, im not even a free player, i was planning to resub when i ran out, but i just changed my mind



i seriously dont want to give you my money, just on general principle.

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Rooky
11.15.2012 , 06:05 PM | #522
This is seriously bad. I have put enough money into the game to desire quickbars and hide headgear!
I bought the game new at £45 under a year ago, played for 5 months (on and off again) yet have to pay for baiscs?
I understand the need to have restrictions but returning players shouldn't have basics they have been used to taken away, people of whom kept this game alive in the first place (I know barly alive).
I was planning on playing every now and then, buying coins if I saw something cool for my toons to use or maybe a new race if you added one for cartel coins but now? Now i'm not bothering. Without these basics the game feels weird and its tedious to go into ability and select speeder, my headgear always looked dumb so I hid it. Also EXP is slower so why the hell should I bother.

One more customer lost. Well done Ea. Well done Bioware.

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Onyxus
11.15.2012 , 06:45 PM | #523
Delete this post.

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Gerandar
11.15.2012 , 06:55 PM | #524
Quote: Originally Posted by Newyankalt View Post
You can blame this crap more on EA than bioware. EA has stuff like this in a lot of there games.
you do understand SWTOR was the first EA MMO to go F2P so what other MMO's that EA owns have these options?

also as a free player you should be restricted from everything other then PVE questing from levels 1-50, if you want to do warzones/FP's/OP's get a sub going.

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Crabbits
11.15.2012 , 07:00 PM | #525
Quote: Originally Posted by MoltenRog View Post
Yeah a few I'd like to point out that I've not seen in other F2P games before.

A restriction on Death for F2P users, this isn't going to go down well, after 5 deaths you have to purchase a license to stop dying at the nearest point.

Sprint at level 1 disabled?

Purchase a weekly pass for flash points, nobody does flash points enough for you to provide it as a weekly pass?

Emergency fleet pass restrictions, gotta pay money to get an 18 hour cool down, good luck with that.

You might as well start charging people 50 cartel coins to login, or 50 cartel coins to buy an item from a vendor or to be able to sell.

Some of the features are stupid and you will get nothing but public out roar over it. Yes, I'm well aware some people can live without these features.

But i don't like it and im paying user who's been subscribed since release and i think some of these free to play changes are ridiculous, it's gotten to the point that the cash shop won't just be a content / cosmetic feature, but you people at Bioware will force new players to pay for most of the ground up features that are free in other games, so good luck with this plan because if you go through with it, it will most likely fail.
I pay for all of those things....sub up or buy cartel coins if you don't like it...you stupid *****.

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sinosleep
11.15.2012 , 07:01 PM | #526
These threads are all the same.

Why do people assume that if anyone complains about any aspect of the free to play or freemium services that by virtue of that it automatically means they want no restrictions whatsoever?

I have no problem with restrictions, I have problems with STUPID restrictions. If you want to provide subscribers with expansion pack content for free while making free to play and freemiums pay for expansions one at a time like DCUO does I'm ok with that.

If you want to restrict my total number of character slots or bank slots I'm A ok with that as well.

Restricting things like what gear you can wear, the number of quick bars available to you (which depending on the number of viable skills available is potentially game breaking), and the number of instances you can run a week though is ridiculous.

I don't want everything for free. I have purchased 3 game updates, several character slots, respecs, and vanity items for DCUO. Which add up to several months worth of subscriptions that I otherwise wouldn't have paid for because while I find the game fun enough to spend money on I don't think it's worth a monthly fee.

I just don't want the restrictions to seem punitive. I'm more enticed to spend money for a reward than I am to spend money to avoid a punishment.

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Jorgoman
11.15.2012 , 07:01 PM | #527
You are still getting the game for free, compared to buying it. You can still level up to level fifty and enjoy the game, while if you wish, you can enjoy it even more by spending CC's. The main thing is, that you are still getting it for free. And the Cartel Shop is definitely going to get a lot more items for those of you that complain about that.

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skiibyrd
11.15.2012 , 07:03 PM | #528
Quote: Originally Posted by MoltenRog View Post
Yeah a few I'd like to point out that I've not seen in other F2P games before.

A restriction on Death for F2P users, this isn't going to go down well, after 5 deaths you have to purchase a license to stop dying at the nearest point.

Sprint at level 1 disabled?

Purchase a weekly pass for flash points, nobody does flash points enough for you to provide it as a weekly pass?

Emergency fleet pass restrictions, gotta pay money to get an 18 hour cool down, good luck with that.

You might as well start charging people 50 cartel coins to login, or 50 cartel coins to buy an item from a vendor or to be able to sell.

Some of the features are stupid and you will get nothing but public out roar over it. Yes, I'm well aware some people can live without these features.

But i don't like it and im paying user who's been subscribed since release and i think some of these free to play changes are ridiculous, it's gotten to the point that the cash shop won't just be a content / cosmetic feature, but you people at Bioware will force new players to pay for most of the ground up features that are free in other games, so good luck with this plan because if you go through with it, it will most likely fail.
Funny thing, all these people crying about F2P... ITS FREE, its a trail game, its not supposed to be anywhere near the full version, so yes, if you want to do anything but level then get a monthly sub like you should.

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sinosleep
11.15.2012 , 07:09 PM | #529
Quote: Originally Posted by skiibyrd View Post
Funny thing, all these people crying about F2P... ITS FREE, its a trail game, its not supposed to be anywhere near the full version, so yes, if you want to do anything but level then get a monthly sub like you should.
Actually, it's NOT a trial, bioware has been very specific about that same with most MMO companies. Wow lets you play to X level for free. Do they say that WOW has gone free to play or that they offer a trial? Back when this game was letting people lvl to 20 for free did they say the game had gone free to play or that they were offering a trial? No, they were very specific about free to play launching TODAY. A trial, and a free 2 play service aren't the same thing and most MMO companies know that which is why they advertise the two differently.

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TonyACT
11.15.2012 , 07:10 PM | #530
Quote: Originally Posted by sinosleep View Post
Actually, it's NOT a trial, bioware has been very specific about that same with most MMO companies. Wow lets you play to X level for free. Do they say that WOW has gone free to play or that they offer a trial? Back when this game was letting people lvl to 20 for free did they say the game had gone free to play or that they were offering a trial? No, they were very specific about free to play launching TODAY. A trial, and a free 2 play service aren't the same thing and most MMO companies know that which is why they advertise the two differently.
What they say and what it is are not necessarily the same. Looked at from the outside this looks like an extended trial to me.