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falcon_Xtreme
11.13.2012 , 07:11 AM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by chimex View Post
To pay extra on top of that to get better items and clear progression, is unfair and unequal!
ironically that is also true between the f2p and subscription models.
REDZONE & PROUD!

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Atramar
11.13.2012 , 07:12 AM | #52
Just a question, where is this game breaking P2W comes from? I cannot find anything game breaking on cartel shop, a link would be nice please
Tracer Legacy, The Red Eclipse.
Not reading colored text, it hurts my eyes. Sorry (unless it's a dev post)
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falcon_Xtreme
11.13.2012 , 07:14 AM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by Atramar View Post
Just a question, where is this game breaking P2W comes from? I cannot find anything game breaking on cartel shop, a link would be nice please
Astute observation. people are worried about a slippery slope with the store. hell at least its not a nerf mara thread.
REDZONE & PROUD!

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CommanderKeeva
11.13.2012 , 07:25 AM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by falcon_Xtreme View Post
because i can. how you play is up to you. how I play is my business.
Okay, then consider the following:

"I want a university degree! What do you mean I have to actually i attend the university and put hard work into it? I have money!" Absurd?

"I want a language certificate! You don't really expect me to actually waste my time learning another language, when I have money, right?" Absurd?

"What do you mean I can't buy my PhD? Just look at how much money I have!" Absurd?

"I find it too tiring to ascend to the rank of director over the years. I don't want to waste my valuable time gaining prestige among my colleagues! Make me director of the company on day 1, I'll pay for it!" Absurd?

"Hey what do you mean I have to create some groundbreaking invention or cure some disease to get the Noble Prize? I don't want to waste years of my life grinding formulas and crunching numbers that might one day make me famous! I want to be the best right now, but no worries I can pay!" Absurd?

If you find these real life analogies absurd, then it's equally absurd to assume that you can replace time and effort with money in a virtual life. It doesn't work that way, it never has and never will.

Or please humor me and name some great achievement in real life that can be bought for money and doesn't require any effort.
BEING A GOOD SOLDIER COMES DOWN TO ONE THING, ONE SINGLE QUESTION:
WHAT ARE YOU PREPARED TO SACRIFICE?

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Dras_Keto
11.13.2012 , 07:26 AM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by Atramar View Post
Just a question, where is this game breaking P2W comes from? I cannot find anything game breaking on cartel shop, a link would be nice please
Doesnt much matter for endgame but:

Advanced Orange-Yellow War Hero’s Crystal +41 expertise. REQUIRES LEVEL 35

But it doesnt stop there, I mean, seriously, you think that level 50 crystals available to level 35s was bad? well, how about this?

http://dulfy.net/wp-content/uploads/...inkpurple2.jpg

Yeah, level 50 crystals, at level 10. There went the entire sub-50 pvp experience. It was annoying enough having to deal with the level 40s who saved up 6300 wz comms and bought weapons with the +18 expertise enhancements ... this just blows that out of the water completely.

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Crawelc
11.13.2012 , 07:26 AM | #56
President of the United States.
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All Imprimis All the time.

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CommanderKeeva
11.13.2012 , 07:29 AM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by Crawelc View Post
President of the United States.
Yeah, Romney is pushing for P2W elections in 2016.
BEING A GOOD SOLDIER COMES DOWN TO ONE THING, ONE SINGLE QUESTION:
WHAT ARE YOU PREPARED TO SACRIFICE?

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Dras_Keto
11.13.2012 , 07:31 AM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by CommanderKeeva View Post
Yeah, Romney is pushing for P2W elections in 2016.
Guess who spent more for 2012, though? And had about 80% of the media lying through their teeth supporting him? Thats the real deciding factor, since most Americans are incapable of making decisions for themselves or, heaven forbid, coming up with an original thought every once in a while.

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CommanderKeeva
11.13.2012 , 07:34 AM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by Dras_Keto View Post
Doesnt much matter for endgame but:

Advanced Orange-Yellow War Hero’s Crystal +41 expertise. REQUIRES LEVEL 35

But it doesnt stop there, I mean, seriously, you think that level 50 crystals available to level 35s was bad? well, how about this?

http://dulfy.net/wp-content/uploads/...inkpurple2.jpg

Yeah, level 50 crystals, at level 10. There went the entire sub-50 pvp experience. It was annoying enough having to deal with the level 40s who saved up 6300 wz comms and bought weapons with the +18 expertise enhancements ... this just blows that out of the water completely.
There was actually a dev response on this. These crystals are there to give an advantage to low level players that don't have access to the all the skills yet. The lower level you are, the more the crystal will benefit you. Its usefulness diminishes as you gain levels and at 50 it evaporates to nothing.

Also, they stated that they would like to make the crystals stats permanent, so you don't have to throw away your super-rare white or black-green crystal simply because it's not BiS anymore.
BEING A GOOD SOLDIER COMES DOWN TO ONE THING, ONE SINGLE QUESTION:
WHAT ARE YOU PREPARED TO SACRIFICE?

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Dras_Keto
11.13.2012 , 07:45 AM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by CommanderKeeva View Post
There was actually a dev response on this. These crystals are there to give an advantage to low level players that don't have access to the all the skills yet. The lower level you are, the more the crystal will benefit you. Its usefulness diminishes as you gain levels and at 50 it evaporates to nothing.

Also, they stated that they would like to make the crystals stats permanent, so you don't have to throw away your super-rare white or black-green crystal simply because it's not BiS anymore.
So, youre telling me that their "fix" to the relative imbalance of say, a team of pubs with 6 people under level 15 going up against a team of imps all over level 45 is something we now have to pay for?

" 'Content' Preview for January! The Bug Fix Patch!! After careful thought we have decided to release into the Cartel Shop a few new consumable items.

They include awesome things like:

- The Ultra-Desweeperizer! Once use of this awesome item will reduce any Guardian or Sentinel's Force Sweep damage on you by 70% for three (3) hours of play time!

- The 'OMGWTFBBQSTOP STUNNING ME!' This handy item will, when used, break you out of any crowd control effects, and make you immune to further CC's for 10 seconds without triggering your CC breaker cooldown!"

Etc. ...