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Why did the Sith Empire crumble and fail?

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Why did the Sith Empire crumble and fail?

DarthRamette's Avatar

11.09.2012 , 08:14 PM | #1
What happened to this Sith Empire that made it disappear?

lokdron's Avatar

11.10.2012 , 01:40 AM | #2
Er we don't know since it has not happened yet?

Scathe's Avatar

11.10.2012 , 01:49 AM | #3
We don't know what happens to it yet, though I have a theory that it crumbles because the Emperor's essence eventually fails and dies. It's why the Original Sith Empire failed after Adas died, before then it was held in peace and unity.

maxetius's Avatar

11.11.2012 , 10:58 PM | #4
Because the Empire gets wind of the Emperor's ultimate goal at some point and wars amongst itself until it eventually falls to the Republic and the Emperor himself's true body is finally slain.

Beniboybling's Avatar

11.12.2012 , 02:00 PM | #5
Backstabbing, backstabbing, backstabbing - we can't say for sure why the Empire collapses, but it will have something to do with backstabbing.

Costello's Avatar

11.12.2012 , 06:41 PM | #6
I think its unlikely that the sith empire could fall in such a way that it could be considered Canon in the terms of the Extended Universe. You have an empire that spands the galaxy that has brought the republic to its knees and yet is not even mentioned in any of the books. Because when they were written it hadn't happened.

So from that point of view trying to tie it in would be difficult. A little like where in the Heir to the Empire stories the clone masters are refered to as mad and the enemies of the republic but in the clone wars were the people that allowed the republic to fight. You can't always tie things in so as far as TOR goes and an MMO goes the empire could very much win.

It will never be Canon but then there are things in the movies that aren't even Canon, Leia says she remembers her mother her true mother, Obi Wan never remembers owning a droid that belonged to his padawan and Han Solo and Chewie who has travelled from one edge of the Galaxy to the other knows nothing of Jedi and the force yet they were only hunted down in his life time and the walking carpet knew Yoda.

So as far as the empire falling it may never be explained in the life of tor.

DarthRamette's Avatar

11.14.2012 , 11:59 PM | #7
My thoughts were either the usual backstabbing that just weakens the Empire little by little till it falls, people realize what the Emperors plan really is and take action but then that leads to infighting and the collapse of the Empire or something totally different. I was just thinking as I was writing my fan fiction story for my warrior and wondered if anyone knew of what y'all thought.

Kaisernick's Avatar

11.19.2012 , 01:19 PM | #8
i still believe given that the empire uses the symbol that is the republics by the PT and the focus on many of the story's about each side being annihilated i think that the empire republic jedi and sith will do so much damage that in the end only a few on either side survive and in order to ensure life isn't wiped out from the galaxy they make peace join up and eventually merge into the republic that we know.

Xiahoufig's Avatar

11.19.2012 , 01:52 PM | #9
The Sith (up until the destruction and rebirth of the order by the Sith'ari) have always been plagued by in-fighting and treachery. You can't expect an empire to last when you never know when the guy next to you will stick a lightsaber in your back the second you turn around.
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Jandi's Avatar

11.19.2012 , 09:55 PM | #10
Either the emperor is really dead, and the hand is simply using Wrath as a puppet for their own reasons and it will come out, causing a massive power struggle OR his plan comes public knowledge, causing a Sith civil war because no Sith would take his or her own death freely, not even for the emperor, which is what the emperors plan would cause, the death of everyone (the reason why Scourge leaves his side).

OR the emperor succeeds, but that's never going to happen for obvious reasons.

Once either of the 2 possibilities happen, the pubs will clean up what's left of the Sith and accept the surrender of the Imperial citizens and military personnel and integrates them into the republic. They wouldn't repeat the mistake of the past and start another genocide.

These are the only scenarios that make any logical sense. It's not that I'm a pub supporter, because I play empire, it's just the sensible conclusion to this particular conflict.

Or, maybe, Nox takes over and crushes the republic. That would be great. However, in this case, without an external enemy, the Sith would destroy themselves and Jedi teachings would prevail, the Empire turned into a new republic and we are back at square 1. I mean, there are many Sith who have lost faith in their own side, even Malgus saw that the Empire was doomed with it's impractical ideology and I'm sure he wasn't alone.