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Debunking false ideas about Mara/Sents in PVP

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Debunking false ideas about Mara/Sents in PVP

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Phasersablaze
11.12.2012 , 04:09 PM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by Jadescythe View Post
Only Juggs/Guardians have force push. Mezzes are not stuns. What a joke.
The point is that he is downplaying his abilities. "only" 2 interrupts. "Only" 1 stun and 1 AE mez. "Only" 4 defensive discs. Predation can "Only" be used when you have 30 stacks.

Give me a break. Open your eyes already.

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Jadescythe
11.12.2012 , 04:29 PM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by Phasersablaze View Post
The point is that he is downplaying his abilities. "only" 2 interrupts. "Only" 1 stun and 1 AE mez. "Only" 4 defensive discs. Predation can "Only" be used when you have 30 stacks.

Give me a break. Open your eyes already.
Someone already mentioned this can be done with any class, here you go.

Overpowered Corruption/Lightning Sorcs:

1) Force Speed that ignores/breaks roots and snares every 20 seconds.
2) 15m range KB with 5 second root, breaks on damage after 2 seconds.
3) Free self heal (with talent, mine crits around 6-6.5k)
4) 3-4k damage reduction through bubble that can be applied to anyone in group every 17 seconds with 2 piece force mystic set bonus. This bubble is talented to stun anyone nearby for 3 seconds when damage pops it or it is manually clicked off.
5) 4 second hard stun with 10 m range
6) 8 Second mezz with 30 m range every 45 seconds.
7) Interrupt locks out ability for an additional 2 seconds.
8) Friendly pull every 45 seconds.
9) Essentially no worry about resource management due to talents in lightning tree.
10) Can cleanse any force abilities, killing madness and anni specs.
11) Snare reducing speed by 50% for 6 seconds every 12 seconds on 30 m range.
12) All heals and damaging abilities can be performed from 30 m range.
I have opinions and stuff

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Wookieenator
11.12.2012 , 04:35 PM | #33
debunking false ideas by inputting incorrect statements.

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Phasersablaze
11.12.2012 , 04:40 PM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by Jadescythe View Post
Someone already mentioned this can be done with any class, here you go.

Overpowered Corruption/Lightning Sorcs:

1) Force Speed that ignores/breaks roots and snares every 20 seconds.
2) 15m range KB with 5 second root, breaks on damage after 2 seconds.
3) Free self heal (with talent, mine crits around 6-6.5k)
4) 3-4k damage reduction through bubble that can be applied to anyone in group every 17 seconds with 2 piece force mystic set bonus. This bubble is talented to stun anyone nearby for 3 seconds when damage pops it or it is manually clicked off.
5) 4 second hard stun with 10 m range
6) 8 Second mezz with 30 m range every 45 seconds.
7) Interrupt locks out ability for an additional 2 seconds.
8) Friendly pull every 45 seconds.
9) Essentially no worry about resource management due to talents in lightning tree.
10) Can cleanse any force abilities, killing madness and anni specs.
11) Snare reducing speed by 50% for 6 seconds every 12 seconds on 30 m range.
12) All heals and damaging abilities can be performed from 30 m range.
Lol that's a nice straw man you made there.

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TheronFett
11.12.2012 , 04:53 PM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by BoDiE View Post
Precisely. The class is too easy to play and they won't accept it.


Compared to...Derpasmash Juggernaut? 3-button rotation Powertech? Bubble of the Undying Sage? Facetank Shadow?

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Phasersablaze
11.12.2012 , 04:56 PM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by Wookieenator View Post
debunking false ideas by inputting incorrect statements.
Says the guys with a Mara and a Jug.

Thank you for proving my point.

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Phasersablaze
11.12.2012 , 05:23 PM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by Wookieenator View Post
and an operative, scoundrel, sniper, mercenary, vanguard, sorc, assassin. Mara is op, but when you post incorrect information then it deserves to be called out for. No point in calling for a nerf thread if what you say is wrong. Saying obliterate is a 15m ranged interrupt among MANY other things, might as well say sorc bubble absorbs 30k damage.
Lol that's a pretty wild comparison 30k sorc bubbles? You sound like you are desperately trying to distract.

#1) Learn to read. I am not calling for Nerfs.
#2) I am not perfect and don't have 100% knowledge of all classes from the top of my head. You can call out mistakes, yes, but discrediting everything I say because of one mistake is just being ignorant. No one knows everything.
#3) There aren't "MANY" other things because if there were then you would have listed them. (That logical fallacy is called gross generalization btw.)

Look I can do the same thing:

"Marauders have this ability that makes them god for 4 seconds."

"They also have MANY MORE abilities like that!"

"Marauders are OP because they can be god-mode forever!"

Makes sense right? Well...according to your logic.

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Royox
11.12.2012 , 05:24 PM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by Exgrunt View Post
Rage marauders are easy to play. Carnage most definitley is not which is why I rolled Carnage. I have never wants said that our defensive cds are not powerful they most definitely are but only out of necessity. We are a medium armor, in your face dps class. If we did not have the defensive cds we have we would be next to useless. Learn to counter Undying rage and you will have np with maras when it is popped.

The problem is that ARMOR is not working as intended...so the diference between Medium armor and Heavy armor is absurd.

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Royox
11.12.2012 , 05:30 PM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by Jadescythe View Post
Someone already mentioned this can be done with any class, here you go.

Overpowered Corruption/Lightning Sorcs:

1) Force Speed that ignores/breaks roots and snares every 20 seconds.
2) 15m range KB with 5 second root, breaks on damage after 2 seconds.
3) Free self heal (with talent, mine crits around 6-6.5k)
4) 3-4k damage reduction through bubble that can be applied to anyone in group every 17 seconds with 2 piece force mystic set bonus. This bubble is talented to stun anyone nearby for 3 seconds when damage pops it or it is manually clicked off.
5) 4 second hard stun with 10 m range
6) 8 Second mezz with 30 m range every 45 seconds.
7) Interrupt locks out ability for an additional 2 seconds.
8) Friendly pull every 45 seconds.
9) Essentially no worry about resource management due to talents in lightning tree.
10) Can cleanse any force abilities, killing madness and anni specs.
11) Snare reducing speed by 50% for 6 seconds every 12 seconds on 30 m range.
12) All heals and damaging abilities can be performed from 30 m range.

LOL can u do it with vanguard? xD

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Asturias
11.12.2012 , 06:00 PM | #40
Quote: Originally Posted by Phasersablaze View Post
The stun-happy environment is a different matter all-together. Also, even if I am smart and save my stun for the right time I'm probably still out of luck because my team mates have given you full resolve.

Don't get me wrong, I know how to use my stun, and I'm not saying Marauders are god-mode classes that can't be countered. I AM saying however, that marauders have the most powerful tools available to them than any other PVP class.
You just implyed there God Mode with this sentence. Marauders are a great class if well played but they are easy to burn down once focused on. The problem is people don't use stims and there is your OP status for any class.
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