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The game reputation is kinda ''terminal phase'' at this point.

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The game reputation is kinda ''terminal phase'' at this point.

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Jnaathra
11.11.2012 , 02:05 PM | #81
Quote: Originally Posted by Lord_Ravenhurst View Post
MMOFPS combat = real skill

MMORPG combat = gear

I must say besides Planetside 2 also the Firefall beta is amazing. Everything about it. Amazing graphics (Unreal 3), everything moves, everything is interactive, they´ve got a huge world with day/night change. Just beautiful.
They even have a very efficient way of storytelling, great voiceacting, and they haven´t even started to get into the main phase of the PvE quests and dynamic events. Very promising.

Not everyone´s cup of tea I guess but anyway...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz6PJKEbq7U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neNOgHFtMPw
GW2 SPVP has a staging area. It makes you lvl 80 (max). Lets you respec for free (no limit) and offers you vendors full of free gear to mix and match as you see fit. There is ZERO gear grind associated with their SPVP (just as it was in GW1).

Quote: Originally Posted by seatown View Post
Even tho we bled subs like a jason voorhees victim after launch, and we have no where near WoW's numbers..... aren't we still like the 2nd most populated MMO out there as of this time?
Globally? Hell no...

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Lord_Ravenhurst
11.11.2012 , 02:18 PM | #82
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Only WoW can kill WoW and it's happening really quickly now.
Only Blizzard can kill WoW - and it will happen with "Titan".
I don´t think these two games will peacefully coexist forever

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aeterno
11.11.2012 , 03:47 PM | #83
There's no denying the fact TOR picked up a bad "reputation" by now.

The surely not so far-pff expansion better hit it out of the ballpark or it's swans song.

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LordArtemis
11.11.2012 , 03:59 PM | #84
Quote: Originally Posted by seatown View Post
Even tho we bled subs like a jason voorhees victim after launch, and we have no where near WoW's numbers..... aren't we still like the 2nd most populated MMO out there as of this time?
Aion and Second Life are believed to be the number two and number three global games at the moment, with WoW being number one naturally. That is until GW2 releases it's numbers.

If your talking NA games, it's probably number two. Worldwide however, it either number three or four. Still, even if subs have dropped to around 400 to 500k as some contend it's still in the top ten.

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kirorx
11.11.2012 , 04:10 PM | #85
Quote: Originally Posted by Xenirath View Post
I blame all the jocks trying to be one of the new millennial cool kids by playing MMOs. "If it isn't number one on twitter it sucks!"

Its sad how this generation has become so obsessed with being like everyone else. We get these flashmobs, Hippsters, Occupiers, etc... Its sickening how far people are sacrificing self expression to be "popular".
um, what? pretty sure playing mmo video games, actually playing any vidoe game is pretty much the least ""cool"" thing you can be doing.

Doubtful that you will be the most popular kid in school because you are a jam up tank and i really cant see success when using your highest damage in warzone as jumping off point when picking up chicks at a bar.

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Stncold
11.11.2012 , 04:20 PM | #86
TOR will forever have a terrible reputation and it will never improve, likely it will get worse.
At this point the game is only limping along(and will do so for a while) for two reasons.

1) Star Wars

2) Being sci-fi in a sea of fantasy MMO's.

You can thank EA for all of that.
RIP The Fatman.

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kirorx
11.11.2012 , 04:39 PM | #87
Quote: Originally Posted by Stncold View Post
TOR will forever have a terrible reputation and it will never improve, likely it will get worse.
At this point the game is only limping along(and will do so for a while) for two reasons.

1) Star Wars

2) Being sci-fi in a sea of fantasy MMO's.

You can thank EA for all of that.
Bioware/EA needed to accept these 2 things as reality and rather than compete with WoW and all the fantasy mmos, they needed to simply focus on Starwars and the starwars fanbase.

Justin Beiber makes music that alot of people buy but that will never appeal to the Pantera fans, Pantera sells alot less tickets than Justin Beiber but that does not mean Pantera is not a better product, its just appeals to smaller and much different audience.

SWTOR needed to not care about the existance of WoW or GW2, They needed to simply focus on building an awesome Starwars game.

SWTOR needs to become the Pantera of Starwars.

SWTOR has the one thing that WoW and GW2 will never have, STAR WARS.

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Xatasha
11.11.2012 , 05:55 PM | #88
Quote: Originally Posted by Lord_Ravenhurst View Post
Only Blizzard can kill WoW - and it will happen with "Titan".
I don´t think these two games will peacefully coexist forever
Wow has been dying a slow death for a couple years now. Blizzard does a great job of covering this since people don't look into it. Ask yourself this how many gamers in real life that you know that play wow for any length of time. I know one hardcore player and other that plays once every 3 or 4 months to do new content and then quits for a few months.

Back in its hay day most of my workshop played. Now your teased if you do

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Arkerus
11.11.2012 , 06:01 PM | #89
The article was laughably...bad.

There was zero perspective. If the author had even a shred of perspective they would have noticed that relative to the rest of the industry, TOR is doing just fine. WoW isn't included in the conversation. It's WoW. Its the anomaly and will be for a very long time. The shakeout appears to be over (large as it was) and the game has a new, yet unpredictable, future.
Hooning in the rex : http://youtu.be/xtXUM6yPMCY

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Nemmar
11.11.2012 , 06:13 PM | #90
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I don't think that the game is dead....however, many does.

http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/bioware-mmo...1226628p1.html
At the same time, the free-to-play conversion marks the end of SWTOR's significance as an MMORPG, just under a year after its release.

And it's very worrying. The game having the reputaiton of being dead is almost as bad as the game being dead.
To be honest, i dont give one ounce of credit to that review cause he us telling is how GW2 is so awesome.

Its the problem with professional reviewers, they dont completely play the game. If they did they would realise like so many players did, that the game is quite boring. A game that is boring is bad. Yet, it does have a very good initial impression that fools those that dont play it for long.

Does that mean im pleased with the F2P model that is beeing launched? No, not really. I think its blatently greedy and dumb. I dont think it will work and i am afraid it will mean the end of the game. All cause of EA. I really wish they would bankrupt. The world would be a better place without EA ruining studios and games.