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Same gender relationships clarifications?
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Druidsfire
11.09.2012 , 06:00 PM | #3041
Quote: Originally Posted by Tatile View Post
You look pretty fresh to me.

My problem is I burnt myself up on talking about this content, it's good to see someone with optimism.
I believe we will get this content. Simple as that.

However, I also want this content to be /awesome/. As I said in my big blogpost, it's not even content I'm interested in playing, but I believe it's only right and fair that it's there... but YOU FOLKS deserve the best effort Bioware can put into the crafting of the end result, not a shoddy thing slapped in there just to shut people up. That would be far more insulting than the silence we have now.

All I can suggest is remembering that the silence isn't some evil person wanting to torment you, it's not malicious in intent.

I hope they say something soon.
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-= Kyr'iana ~ Kyrion ~ Celestial ~ Azurephoenix @ The Shadowlands =-
-= Kyriana ~ Tirion ~ Jerilyn ~ Phoenix @ Begeren Colony =-

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Palar
11.09.2012 , 07:04 PM | #3042
I'd have more faith in their benevolence, had they not backtracked and deleted the one confirmation of any progress.

The communication they've given this year boils down to:
"It's coming with new story, this year"
"We're putting story on the back-burner, we're not sure when that will get updated"
"SGR? I don't know, it might still be on track this year"
"I can confirm that abstract guess.... wait, no I can't. DELETE"

They'd have to know what they're even doing, before they could be malicious.

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Tatile
11.09.2012 , 07:09 PM | #3043
Quote: Originally Posted by Palar View Post
They'd have to know what they're even doing, before they could be malicious.
Do not attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by stupidity.

There's a cheery thought.

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Palar
11.09.2012 , 08:58 PM | #3044
Quote: Originally Posted by Tatile View Post
Do not attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by stupidity.

There's a cheery thought.
At least the sun's shining... right?

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Slaign
11.09.2012 , 10:27 PM | #3045
I want to be patient. I really do. I want so bad to love this game, and everything that exists in the game, I do love. But this one thing that's missing really hampers my enjoyment. SGRAs are a staple of BioWare games that have always contributed greatly to my enjoyment of them. It's a part of the making the story your own.

There are a lot of valid reasons for this to be important to someone. I don't happen to be homosexual, myself. For me it's a simple case of my favorite thing in fiction is an awesome female character. I find the female characters generally more interesting and compelling.

For me, that means I want the character I control to be female. It's also pretty much universal that my favorite companion out of each group is female. I want to romance my favorite. I want my favorite to be the one by my side, and I want the one by my side to be my romance.

They've made the story such a big part of this game that I want to enjoy it in full, in one glorious experience. But as it is, I feel like I'd have to enjoy it piecemeal. I can either enjoy the main character of my story and miss out on the romance I want to see, or I can play a main character I find less compelling in order to see that romance.

The story and companion interaction is my favorite aspect of a BioWare game.

So you can see why I find this issue so important. And when the issue is that important to you, nothing is more frustrating than silence. I'd rather have no hope and just go ahead and make my decisions on how I play the game and whether I play the game knowing there was no SGRAs coming, than to have hope that one day, I'll be able to play the way I want to play.

As it is, I feel as if I can only play a few of my least favorite classes, because I'm holding on to hope that I can go through my favorites the first time the way I want to. At the same time, I'm not sure my patience will pay off, because Bioware is silent.

It's also important to get the acknowledgement done because it's not like just confirming SGRAs is the end of the road. It's only the beginning, We also have to know how they are going to do it. Are they going to just throw us a bone by making one class have one companion that swings both ways when they add companions? Are they going to introduce new companions that are gay for each class? Are all future companions going to be like HK-51, and for all classes, and if so does that mean that one of these will be a SGRA, but our only option? Will SG flirting be enabled? Will they just remove the gender flag and allow anyone to romance anyone?

All these questions matter, and need to be answered, but can't even be addressed until they finally start talking to us. Those answers matter now, because what happens in the future has bearing on what choices I make now. If current companions will never have SGRAs, there is no need for me to wait to play certain classes hoping for that.

It's hard to hear people ask for patience when I've been patiently waiting almost a year for this news.

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Druidsfire
11.09.2012 , 10:44 PM | #3046
Slaign, I totally get what you're saying, and you're very articulate with why you want what you want and how it hampers your full enjoyment of games. I feel a lot of the same thing when I play other games that /never/ let me play what I want, and I always, /always/ have to choose a second-best game-path and either get bored and play something else, or sort of shrug and learn to like what I do have. I too have held off on playing certain things in other games, waiting for the promised additional content that would make me a happier camper. Other than writing a game myself (hah!), there's never going to be a game that I'm perfectly happy with in terms of story, with all respect for the folks here at Bioware raising the bar for what I will and will not 'settle for'.

And you're right, you shouldn't have to settle. It's been a year, and I've been waiting for other things in the game that aren't even as visible or most likely on the devs' radar as this must surely be (300+ pages of commentary?). It really has turned into a 'take a dump or get off the pot' sort of situation at this point.

I really do hope that we all hear something soon after F2P. I'll give 'em a little extra grace period due to that circumstance, but after that... not so much.

Fingers and toesies crossed!
-= Writer, MMORPG.com =-
-= Kyr'iana ~ Kyrion ~ Celestial ~ Azurephoenix @ The Shadowlands =-
-= Kyriana ~ Tirion ~ Jerilyn ~ Phoenix @ Begeren Colony =-

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Evolution
11.11.2012 , 08:23 AM | #3047
It would be nice to know what's happening with SGRs, my gameplay has stagnated because of it. I have characters I want to have SGRs with that have reached the point where I can't advance them any further without risking going past the cut-off point for the romance arc (I've already done that with one of them), I have characters I want to create that I can't without knowing that they'll have the SGR option. It's almost at the point where I can't play anymore, and patience can only take you so far (especially when you're paying while you wait).

With F2P just around the corner, I can wait a little longer but if we hear nothing after that, then I just have to assume it's not ever going to happen. The fact that this iteration of the thread has reached 300 pages without being closed and started anew does not bode well for us, it seems they're not even paying attention anymore.

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dlarr
11.11.2012 , 09:04 AM | #3048
Quote: Originally Posted by Evolution View Post
It would be nice to know what's happening with SGRs, my gameplay has stagnated because of it. I have characters I want to have SGRs with that have reached the point where I can't advance them any further without risking going past the cut-off point for the romance arc (I've already done that with one of them), I have characters I want to create that I can't without knowing that they'll have the SGR option. It's almost at the point where I can't play anymore, and patience can only take you so far (especially when you're paying while you wait).

With F2P just around the corner, I can wait a little longer but if we hear nothing after that, then I just have to assume it's not ever going to happen. The fact that this iteration of the thread has reached 300 pages without being closed and started anew does not bode well for us, it seems they're not even paying attention anymore.
Yeah, I'm basicly in the same boat. I simply got frustrated with the game because of this and have not so much as turned it on in the last 2 months. I was enjoying the game. I like my characters (I am an alt-oholic) but I have no interest in playing anymore until I get to play my characters "correctly" aka: the way I really want to.

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Halinmonk
11.11.2012 , 12:06 PM | #3049
So....There is no new news on this? Months have gone by and we are still right where we were at the start?

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Arodin
11.11.2012 , 12:11 PM | #3050
I don't think they should bother with SGR anymore. I pushed for it early on, but things have changed. I'm sure if the game had been a huge hit, they would have already announced an upcoming update to romance options that would have expanded on the existing ones and added whole new same gender options. Alas, the game has not been that huge success. Their budget is so limited now that I don't even think we're going to getting ANY class story content in the foreseeable future, let alone something as specialized as SGR. Maybe if F2P is a big hit and they make a lot of money off the Cartel Market things will be different, but as it sits right now I don't think there's money in the budget for it.

I'm close to completing 3 characters to level 50. I did a romance on my first one and was so underwhelmed by it that I didn't even bother with the other two. "Romances" in SWTOR aren't like in other Bioware games. They're nowhere near as in-depth or dramatic. It's a few flirts and a couple of "fade-to-black" moments. It's silly, really. You're not missing anything.