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My first ever rage quit


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FlyinSpaghetti
11.10.2012 , 03:10 PM | #31
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I did a Story Mode via Group Finder once and quit after the sevenths wipe on towers before first boss in EV, from that moment on I never do any SM OPS without at least 5-6 players that I know from guild or other places. As everyone in guild needs to run it we normally do it twice every week so everyone can get the coms on mains and main alts. Pugging Operations can work sometimes, but it normally costs more then it pays off.
I remember my second or third time of doing EV, just after the first lot of "dogs" before gharg there's a small cliff thing that has a lava pool at the bottom with a lot more dogs down there. The person in front decides to go down there and the rest of the group immediately follows him like sheep leaving 5-6 of the group stuck down there and either dying from the lava damage or the dogs.

After half the group rage quits and whoever was down there to get back up I was made leader and decided to requeue from gharg only for the other three left in the group to rush onto gharg to try to take him on themselves...

After a massive facepalm I then quit.
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theblaznee
11.11.2012 , 04:05 AM | #32
I think I've only done 1 SM OPS on the GF as I usually don't have the patience to wait for it to pop..

But for HM FP I use it quite a bit.. I started out trying to be patient and teach people the mechanics and a bit about their class etc.. But after SO many wipes, and people just being completely clueless no matter what you tell them, I simply got tired of it.
Someone can STILL say it's their first time in the HM, and they need to know the difference.. Fair enough.. But if people say they have never been there before and show up in levelling greens, I just say have fun and quit.. Especially if it's the tank (which it usually is)..

I think the worst is probably Lost Island HM.. Sometimes it's a gear issue, sometimes it's simply a player issue.. I've had rediculously overgeared people in there that had 0 idea what was going on around them.. For some reason the first miniboss in there weeds the weak people from the strong, so if we wipe on that even once, it's goodbye from me..
Yes he hits hard, but I have both a healer and a tank toon, so I know exactly what it takes to down him.. So I just know that if the tank dies here, we won't make it through without a serious repair bill..

The other day I had a fun one.. I was in my fresh healer that was mostly columi, some recruit and BM chest.. I had healed LI HM before, and I had healed my guild in EC and TFB as well, plus I have a full campaign geared healer of a different type as well, so I do know how to play.. The rest of the team were in mostly augmented BH gear.
We wiped time and time again, but crawled through the FP and ended up at the final boss.. The tank was adamant that he had done it all many times before, but still he insisted on taking all the charges from the "I have a trick" phases EVERY time even though I told him it was what was wiping us.. So I finally ended up just leaving.
The fun part though, was that all three other members through the whole FP were writing whispers to me about how bad the other ones were and how it was annoying they cost us wipes.. All 3! ..

TL, DR.. If people are clueless, they get no chance any longer from me.. I just leave without a word.. Easier for everyone..
Don't mistake my silence for ignorance, my calmness for acceptance or my kindness for weakness!

Fight hard, die well!

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Brittaany_Banks
11.11.2012 , 04:19 AM | #33
As a healer i have fortunately gotten to the point where during HM FPs if a tank or a dps need to be kicked i can go ahead and initiate a kick without fear if holding the group up because all my companions are ridiculously geared.
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Helig
11.11.2012 , 04:24 AM | #34
I kind of admire your patience, OP. My tolerance for stupidity is much, much less.
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Taiketo
11.11.2012 , 06:52 AM | #35
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I think the worst is probably Lost Island HM.. Sometimes it's a gear issue, sometimes it's simply a player issue.. I've had rediculously overgeared people in there that had 0 idea what was going on around them.. For some reason the first miniboss in there weeds the weak people from the strong, so if we wipe on that even once, it's goodbye from me..
Yes he hits hard, but I have both a healer and a tank toon, so I know exactly what it takes to down him.. So I just know that if the tank dies here, we won't make it through without a serious repair bill..
I pug LI a few times a week on my tank. I die to the Shaclaw nearly every time, not causing a wipe, I just die when he's almost dead. Almost never wipe, or die, anywhere else in the flashpoint. I've cleared it dozens of times and played every role.

The acid he spits, that does the 5k damage ticks, is completely invisible for me and has been since 1.4.

So saying "If the tank dies here we're ****ed" is, my opinion, pretty wrong. The tank dies in that fight, a lot. The acid does so much damage and is literally invisible for me.

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theblaznee
11.11.2012 , 12:35 PM | #36
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I pug LI a few times a week on my tank. I die to the Shaclaw nearly every time, not causing a wipe, I just die when he's almost dead. Almost never wipe, or die, anywhere else in the flashpoint. I've cleared it dozens of times and played every role.

The acid he spits, that does the 5k damage ticks, is completely invisible for me and has been since 1.4.

So saying "If the tank dies here we're ****ed" is, my opinion, pretty wrong. The tank dies in that fight, a lot. The acid does so much damage and is literally invisible for me.
Fair enough, if the group wipes then.. A tank dying in the final seconds is not too uncommon, you're right.. But it really shouldn't happen.. My pretty average geared Vanguard has yet to die on him (rakata/columi), even a fresh 50 Commando healer in levelling greens healed me through it..
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happysister
11.11.2012 , 11:40 PM | #37
all these stories are very entertaining. major props to all with patience.

i remember the first time i ran LI as a healer (first time i actually got through the entire FP as well)...our melee DPS has level 48 mods in his gear, and at the second boss fight, he had a habit of dropping orbs right on top of the tank. we wiped many times because we just couldn't kill the boss fast enough due to the dps being in subpar gear and the tank dying to lightning balls faster than i could heal. eventually, that guy had to go, and we got someone else who understood the fight and was better geared.

then there was the time where i tanked LI for the first time. we got to the final boss without much problem, but when he exploded into a giant rakghoul, we would always wipe due to the dps not dpsing him down fast enough. our sage dps made a few remarks about that. eventually, after a few wipes, he had to go, so we picked up another dps. i really should have inspected that first guy. the new dude was far better, and we killed the boss without a problem.

and then...there was the last time i ran LI as a dps. the boss after the droid...the one that hops up onto the pipes and you have to channel the terminals to get him to drop back down. our first fight with him, the tank ran from terminal to terminal instead of just sticking to his assigned one. the healer and i are like, "dude.....what?" and we wipe cause the boss just sat up on the pipes and spat us to death. the tank says, "you're supposed to click on the terminals one at a time when he's on the pipes." the funny thing was that the other dps was new to this HM, so we had given clear instructions on what to do before the fight even started.
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Ephesia
11.12.2012 , 01:40 AM | #38
This raises a question, how do you avoid the satchel charges from the 3rd boss in LI HM as a Tank?

A lot of people I've seen have told me they(the devs) have made them unavoidable
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Taiketo
11.12.2012 , 06:48 AM | #39
Tank gear is irrelevant for Shaclaw fight, though, because what kills you, the poison, can't be mitigated, and is going to kill you in roughly the same number of hits whether you have 20k hp or 25k hp.

You can avoid the satchel charges in the Lorrick fight in a number of ways. I personally run around him to the left. The charges come out in conal sweep in front of Lorrick, starting from his left to his right. If you move to the left you'll dodge them all. I just run in a circle around him. Other people like to LOS him behind the tanks, but I find this is extremely difficult on the dps and healer.

Assassin tanks can also force shroud (it does not get rid of the bombs, it just negates the damage) when they're about to explode.

I remember one run of LI where I was on my tank but geared and specced for DPS. The actual tank just absolutely would not even attempt to avoid the bombs, and the healer could not or would not heal him through 4 explosions. After a few wipes caused by this, I decided to taunt Lorrick during the bomb phase. Avoided every bomb and we finally cleared it.

Just run in a circle to the left. As the tank, you'll never eat bombs that way.

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TKiwi
11.12.2012 , 08:14 AM | #40
Can totally agree with this! As a healer myself, I can also add that usually healers are the first to be blamed when things aren't going right..."hey, why didn't I stay alive?! L2P...I was dead without even getting a heal." I don't consider myself the best healer, but I understand the game and how to heal effectively...I've solo healed KP HM with a pug (other healer disconnected and never returned), so I know what I'm doing out there.

My best encounter of this was when healing for HM Lost Island and we couldn't get past the first (half) boss standing before the bridge....after wiping like four times and being called out by the tank for not getting enough heals, I looked at his armor only to notice that he was in DPS Guardian Recruit gear and was also in the DPS stance -___-