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Republic PvP is an absolute embarrassment

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Republic PvP is an absolute embarrassment

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Lium
11.10.2012 , 01:16 PM | #1
And I'm not just talking about warzones either. I mean, in general. It is TERRIBLE. For example. I was out questing last night on Voss. Because it was Friday night, there were a lot of people on the planet and there seemed to be a lot of activity going on. As a result, I encountered a lot of imps roaming around for the specific purpose of killing reps. I think I died about three times in the span of about 10 minutes. And you know what? It was GREAT! That's why I play on a PvP server, to have encounters just like this.

So, I'm definitely not complaining about that. What put me in a foul mood was the Republic players' response:

Me: Lots of imps tonight ganking away. Anyone wanna team up to get them?

*crickets*

I ask again maybe 20 minutes later. Same response - silence. Imps just ganking away, killing every rep they see on sight. No Republic players respond, no Republic player answers calls for help. No Republic player even bothers to fight back. It was 100% embarrassing.

If I was an imp player I'd be disappointed that no one from the other faction was putting up a fight. The one response I finally got back on the general chat was, "Ah, they're just 8 yr olds. It's Friday and they get to be up late." Or some crap like that.

Very serious question here. Why play on a PvP server if this is the kind of attitude you have? I could fully understand if this was a PvE server where you specifically play to enjoy the game at your own pace. But on a PvP server, there is a high chance you will encounter players from the opposing faction, even though BioWare has gone out of their way to separate the factions as much as possible.

When someone from my guild asked in guild chat if anyone wanted to form a team for PvP, I was elated. I screamed, "YES!!!" I said I was already on Voss and ready to go. My guildie then said, "Oh. No not that. I mean warzones." I was thoroughly dejected.

So the only time Republic bothers to PvP is when it is getting heinously violated in warzones? Warzones are little more than the empire's way of collecting free valor.

I knew this would happen before launch, when I browsed the forums and saw nearly every imperial guild recruiting for PvP, and the overwhelming majority of Republic guilds recruiting for RP. I was concerned and even made a thread about it way back in 2008 and again in 2009.

This ineptitude in PvP absolutely contributes to population imbalances. New players that might be interested in the PvP side roll Republic, get rolled themselves by imps, then reroll altogether to the other side. I'm really close to do doing that because playing Republic is extremely frustrating.

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venomlash
11.10.2012 , 01:18 PM | #2
I am SO glad I didn't roll on a PvP server.
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Sathid
11.10.2012 , 01:23 PM | #3
Republic is outnumbered for the most part,i dont know what server your on but The Bastion we Republic hold our own very well.

One other thing is people are most likely playing alts and want to move on asap and being ganked is just a minor blip while your questing for the most part.

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ObiJuanShenobi
11.10.2012 , 01:28 PM | #4
I agree in regards to world PVP. Disagree in regards to WZ's. I'm Imp has been in so many losing WZ's it isn't even funny
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Naej
11.10.2012 , 01:31 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Lium View Post
And I'm not just talking about warzones either. I mean, in general. It is TERRIBLE. For example. I was out questing last night on Voss. Because it was Friday night, there were a lot of people on the planet and there seemed to be a lot of activity going on. As a result, I encountered a lot of imps roaming around for the specific purpose of killing reps. I think I died about three times in the span of about 10 minutes. And you know what? It was GREAT! That's why I play on a PvP server, to have encounters just like this.

So, I'm definitely not complaining about that. What put me in a foul mood was the Republic players' response:

Me: Lots of imps tonight ganking away. Anyone wanna team up to get them?

*crickets*

I ask again maybe 20 minutes later. Same response - silence. Imps just ganking away, killing every rep they see on sight. No Republic players respond, no Republic player answers calls for help. No Republic player even bothers to fight back. It was 100% embarrassing.

If I was an imp player I'd be disappointed that no one from the other faction was putting up a fight. The one response I finally got back on the general chat was, "Ah, they're just 8 yr olds. It's Friday and they get to be up late." Or some crap like that.

Very serious question here. Why play on a PvP server if this is the kind of attitude you have? I could fully understand if this was a PvE server where you specifically play to enjoy the game at your own pace. But on a PvP server, there is a high chance you will encounter players from the opposing faction, even though BioWare has gone out of their way to separate the factions as much as possible.

When someone from my guild asked in guild chat if anyone wanted to form a team for PvP, I was elated. I screamed, "YES!!!" I said I was already on Voss and ready to go. My guildie then said, "Oh. No not that. I mean warzones." I was thoroughly dejected.

So the only time Republic bothers to PvP is when it is getting heinously violated in warzones? Warzones are little more than the empire's way of collecting free valor.

I knew this would happen before launch, when I browsed the forums and saw nearly every imperial guild recruiting for PvP, and the overwhelming majority of Republic guilds recruiting for RP. I was concerned and even made a thread about it way back in 2008 and again in 2009.

This ineptitude in PvP absolutely contributes to population imbalances. New players that might be interested in the PvP side roll Republic, get rolled themselves by imps, then reroll altogether to the other side. I'm really close to do doing that because playing Republic is extremely frustrating.
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Just a short story about when I got the datacrons on tatooine (the balloon ones). I was logged out with my JKG nearby, was playing other alts and checking every now and then if someone was coming on the balloon so I'd duel them and jump up.

Here I see this lvl 50 sniper jumping on top off the thing, move close to the ledge to snipe me... BOOM jump, BOOM push. The poor guy. A fine day for the republic it was.
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Idunhavaname
11.10.2012 , 01:33 PM | #6
This happens to both sides in any game. Majority of people who actually rolls on a PvP server actually don't even want to PvP until they're max level.
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Andryah
11.10.2012 , 02:04 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Lium View Post
*crickets*
So..... are you calling Republic players insects?

Seriously though... people play this game for personal reasons, and for many that does not include dropping whatever they are doing to come help you with your personal desires to gank Imps.

So, I feel it is unfair for you to get frustrated becasue people don't want to drop whatever they are doing and have planned for the days play for them... to come help you out.

IMO.... you need to stop criticizing fellow server-faction members and either join an active and like minded PvP guild or spend some time to make PvP friends and network in game for like minded people. Emphasis: like minded people who have the same desires as you and a willingness to pursue them adhoc.
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warriorcat
11.10.2012 , 02:06 PM | #8
you should no from KOTOR jedi's only attack if they are in danger ... just sayin ... join a pvp guild get them to help you
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simplius
11.10.2012 , 02:49 PM | #9
i think its something in the psychology of those whe play republic/federation/alliance

were usually "the good guys" who do epic quests to save the world

those , who play empire/klingon/horde,,are usually more to PVP, and i think, that theyre younger too

this is only a "gut feeling",,the only thing i can bring as evidence is my experiences from PVP

and no,,we didnt lose so much, because i was on the team

they simply used the game mechanics better , than we did

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Ognajd
11.10.2012 , 04:31 PM | #10
Pugs /= premades? Yeah, open world pvp... same concept. You just need to find friends who think alike versus getting angry at the general population. Or join the imps, lol.