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I dont know why the Sith Warrior story gets so much praise

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I dont know why the Sith Warrior story gets so much praise

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Projawa
11.07.2012 , 06:37 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by ZirusZero View Post
At least you find your lightsaber instead of getting it as a free handout.
Yeah I never understood why the inquisitor gets a free handout instead of finding theirs. Going a step further, why don't the Sith toons get to build their lightsabers to conclude their training on Korriban like the Jedi do on Tython? Is there some lore element I'm missing?

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Darth-Rammstein
11.08.2012 , 01:21 AM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by MusicRider View Post
Tell that to....

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Exactly, I hate quinn more than anyone else plus the fact he betrays you. It's a shame he's the healer, he's my primary companion even though I despise him.
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KryloKillian
11.09.2012 , 03:46 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Karkais View Post
What I loved in the SW story is how it made nearly everything "by the book", in classical sith fashion, and pulled it off with flying colors. (Corruption of a young jedi, lording over slaves(vette) and other inferiors, revenge, killing your master, showing off your strength, even facing your other self - etc)

For me it was less about what happened rather than it happening according to all the laws of Sithhood. That said, Baras was absolutely great. I applaud the voice actor.
In my opinion, it's even better when you go light side, because of how well your character subverts sith fashion while the story and everything around him goes 'by the book'. You basically just go in and subvert every sith trope. . . and many jedi ones.
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Technohic
11.09.2012 , 09:36 AM | #14
I will say the end of chapter one was the best.

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I also like being dark aligned yet having my own code that was more "friendly" I guess to allies, yet still just as nasty and unreasonable with any enemy.

The entire thing was decent enough; but I thought the conclusion after all the fighting paled in comparison to the Inquisitor and Agent. It just dropped off and felt empty.

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Eshmael
11.09.2012 , 10:49 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Kurugi View Post
Don't get me wrong, it was good, but the high point of the whole story for me was definitely the end of chapter 1. My problem with it had more to do with I didn't like how it ended.
Weakest storytelling of them all.
In the end it was interessting just because it tells something about the jedi-knight story ending.

Best in my opinion is the agent.

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Eutoxis
11.09.2012 , 04:04 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Projawa View Post
Yeah I never understood why the inquisitor gets a free handout instead of finding theirs. Going a step further, why don't the Sith toons get to build their lightsabers to conclude their training on Korriban like the Jedi do on Tython? Is there some lore element I'm missing?
I can tell you why the SI gets the lightsaber for free:

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Jenzali
11.09.2012 , 04:38 PM | #17
Actually, that's the exact reason why I liked the SW story so much. Most of the other stories suffer from "whack-a-villain". You know... when villains are introduced and immediately killed off without any character development whatsoever. Does this seem familiar?

Oh look! There's this guy called Darth Maul. Why does he hate our protagonists? Who is he? What are his motives? Whoops, he died.
Oh look! There's this guy called Count Dooku. Why does he hate our protagonists? Who is he? What are his motives? Whoops, he died.
Oh look! There's this guy called General Grievous. Why does he hate our protagonists? Who is he? What are his motives? Whoops, he died.

The Sith Warrior story has one villain that you grow to love or hate right from the Prologue up until the culmination of Act 3. He was a villain that was fully developed, had a history, had motives, in short he was someone we came to understand and hate for good reason. That's why the original trilogy is so much more memorable than the prequels. There's one villain (Darth Vader) who gets developed throughout all 3 movies, rather than 3 lesser villains.

Nobody really likes any sort of storytelling solely for the plot. In fact, "there are only 7 main plots in all of literature". So what makes us come back for more? The memorable characters, of course. Baras was one hell of a memorable character.
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Kurugi
11.10.2012 , 01:08 AM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Jenzali View Post
Actually, that's the exact reason why I liked the SW story so much. Most of the other stories suffer from "whack-a-villain". You know... when villains are introduced and immediately killed off without any character development whatsoever. Does this seem familiar?

Oh look! There's this guy called Darth Maul. Why does he hate our protagonists? Who is he? What are his motives? Whoops, he died.
Oh look! There's this guy called Count Dooku. Why does he hate our protagonists? Who is he? What are his motives? Whoops, he died.
Oh look! There's this guy called General Grievous. Why does he hate our protagonists? Who is he? What are his motives? Whoops, he died.

The Sith Warrior story has one villain that you grow to love or hate right from the Prologue up until the culmination of Act 3. He was a villain that was fully developed, had a history, had motives, in short he was someone we came to understand and hate for good reason. That's why the original trilogy is so much more memorable than the prequels. There's one villain (Darth Vader) who gets developed throughout all 3 movies, rather than 3 lesser villains.

Nobody really likes any sort of storytelling solely for the plot. In fact, "there are only 7 main plots in all of literature". So what makes us come back for more? The memorable characters, of course. Baras was one hell of a memorable character.
The prequels did have one main villain: Palpatine. The 2 main purposes of the prequels was to show 1. Anakin's fall to the dark side and becoming Darth Vader, and 2. Sidious undermining the Republic and twisting it into the Empire. In fact I thought the development of Palpatine was one of the best things about the prequels, especially in episode 3.

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Technohic
11.10.2012 , 09:49 AM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Kurugi View Post
The prequels did have one main villain: Palpatine. The 2 main purposes of the prequels was to show 1. Anakin's fall to the dark side and becoming Darth Vader, and 2. Sidious undermining the Republic and twisting it into the Empire. In fact I thought the development of Palpatine was one of the best things about the prequels, especially in episode 3.

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Yeah, but they were not conflict characters until the last one; which ironically became the best of the 3.

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Atma
11.12.2012 , 06:33 PM | #20
I will say the Sith Warrior story was the best I've seen so far, but the writing in TOR overall is very lacking and no where near the level of KOTOR/Mass Effect/Dragon Age.

And the Jedi Knight just killed one of the Voices of the Emperor, same as the Sith Warrior did on Voss. Not the Emperor himself.
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