Is 500 cartel coins per mont for subscribers worth it?

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Is 500 cartel coins per mont for subscribers worth it?

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Tommot

11.09.2012 , 02:05 PM \| #11
Quote: Originally Posted by MarkoJinn Then you're making the game into pay to win... If a subscriber has to spend even more money now to get ANY item from the store then to me it's pay to win. So unless anything in the store can be acquired through gaming via some quest or game achievement then the game is simply pay to win... And that SUCKS!!!!! Not what Pay 2 Win is. Cosmetic and fluff items dont help you win. The only thing that COULD be considered P2W in the store is the +41 crystals at level 10. But even then, the difference is so negligible it's not worth complaining about or purchasing those crystals just for the stats. If there were +51 crystals on the market, it would 100% be P2W (since you cant even get that at 50). f there was Campaign and War Hero gear on the market, I would also consider it Pay 2 Win. Pets, orange shells, and XP boosts are in no way P2W.
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MarkoJinn

11.09.2012 , 02:05 PM \| #12
Quote: Originally Posted by AidanLightwalker Its more than enough. I do pvp dailies, pve dailies and weeklys on two lvl 50's right now and currently leveling 3 more toons. There's no way I'm paying for that all up front. Rivht now I get complete access and 500 coins a month plus all my sub bonus coins. Thats more than enough to buy cosmetic stuff. Its fine the way it is. I disagree. I know how market works and this is just another scam to make more money. If you really want to be true to your subscribing player base then you have them buy store items with in game currency and everyone else who is not subscribing with cartel coins. That way you reward your subscribers for paying regular monthly fee while still not giving them items from store for free. The way it's setup right now is turning the game into pay to win. It might not look like it now but trust me 500 cc is nothing. Keep in mind that Bioware controls the prices so all they have to do is offer some cool items later for much more than 500 cc and suddenly you are making your subscribers pay even more per month... Typical market trick, i know because I do it every day. Basically the kid whose parents work for Wall Street will be able to beat a regular paying subscriber any day...
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amnie

11.09.2012 , 02:05 PM \| #13
'worth' is such a subjective term with these things. we are talking about pixel, don't forget that.

smexymage

11.09.2012 , 02:05 PM \| #14
Quote: Originally Posted by jgoldsack It sounds to me then like a sub is not waht you want then, since you do not do ops, and from the sounds of it, no pvp either. Just buy the forever unlocks you want then don't pay another cent. Yeh I might actually do that. I hate the whole scenario tbh, was happy to just pay a flat sub every month to support the running and development of the game. FTP brings too many issues to the table, cant keep eveyone happy and sometimes too many options just brings issues.
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jgoldsack

11.09.2012 , 02:07 PM \| #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Tommot XP boosts are in no way P2W. Thats "Pay 2 Get to 50 Faster" lol
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MarkoJinn

11.09.2012 , 02:07 PM \| #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Tommot Not what Pay 2 Win is. Cosmetic and fluff items dont help you win. The only thing that COULD be considered P2W in the store is the +41 crystals at level 10. But even then, the difference is so negligible it's not worth complaining about or purchasing those crystals just for the stats. If there were +51 crystals on the market, it would 100% be P2W (since you cant even get that at 50). f there was Campaign and War Hero gear on the market, I would also consider it Pay 2 Win. Pets, orange shells, and XP boosts are in no way P2W. Oh they will be eventually. That's the point the model they are going with right now is moderate because they don't want to piss anyone off. But eventually they will offer anything that will make them profit regardless. That's the part you're missing... They have opened the door and now they just have to wait for us to fall asleep and BAM... Pay to win is here and we are not complaining anymore...
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Urael

11.09.2012 , 02:08 PM \| #17
Quote: Originally Posted by smexymage Does anyone else think that subscribers should get more cartel coins for paying the monthly sub? It may eb cheaper to play the game under the F2P model and somply purchase a few cartel coins for a few bits and bobs. no seriously ... Never enough ... Never enough ... This thread is rated "E".

Ushuma-Orbi

11.09.2012 , 02:09 PM \| #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Gruug I don't think subscribers should get ANY CC ever. Now, before you have a heart attack, hear me out. I think that the whole "in-game" store AND having subs is just wrong. Why? Because subscribers are going to get the small end of the stick when it comes to content...including items that are going to be offered on the store. Subscribers are only going to be here to subsidise those people that are playing for free and not using the item store and those free players that do but do not spend enough to pay for their game use. In other words, to me anyway, subscribers are not getting the full value of whatever the per month sub fee they may pay. Before I read that, I was thinking in spent 200 dollars in Cartel Coins... Grettings.
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jgoldsack

11.09.2012 , 02:10 PM \| #19
Quote: Originally Posted by MarkoJinn Oh they will be eventually. That's the point the model they are going with right now is moderate because they don't want to piss anyone off. But eventually they will offer anything that will make them profit regardless. That's the part you're missing... They have opened the door and now they just have to wait for us to fall asleep and BAM... Pay to win is here and we are not complaining anymore... And as I have said before, when i HAVE to buy an item in the store in order to be competitive in the game is the same day that I cancel my sub and never play again.
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Andryah

11.09.2012 , 02:10 PM \| #20
Quote: Originally Posted by smexymage Does anyone else think that subscribers should get more cartel coins for paying the monthly sub? It may eb cheaper to play the game under the F2P model and somply purchase a few cartel coins for a few bits and bobs. 500 a month is quite fair and it follows the industry norm (1/3 of subscription price equivalency).
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