$10-$15 for armor sets/crystals? Really?

Although it's a bit of a derail, I agree. I have loads of friends from launch that quit the game in Jan.-Feb. because they didn't want to pay a sub. All plan to return when F2P launches. SWTOR is going to esplode.

People are highly critical of this game for good reason. However, it's just too good a game for people not to play for free.

where are people finding the items that are availible on the cartel market, and its exact pricing?

We are seeing now this isn't the case. Many of the people that are coming back now are admitting in game and on these forums they were way too harsh on this game when it launched. Only when you spend time playing that other MMO that is supposed to be your messiah do you realize what SWTOR does right and it's appeal. GW2? Tera? TSW? They are all going through the depopulation stage now as people come back here.

We've turned a corner and with some content updates already on their way, we'll be good to go long term now.

Here's what was on offer on the PTS version of the cartel market.

http://dulfy.net/2012/10/23/swtor-ca...arket-items/#1
http://dulfy.net/2012/10/23/swtor-le...-cartel-coins/

I'm probably going to get the GTN and the rocket boost first as it will be a huge saving on the in-game credits .

Cheers,

BadOrb.

What you are describing is not that people didn't have good reason for leaving this game, but rather that other games are just as bad or worse and SWTOR looks better in comparison.

Peeps that left early on were completely justified in their choice. Level 50 peeps in Champ gear going against level 30s in WZs, RNG gear bags, the Ilum disaster, Valor going up in smoke due to one horrible patch, broken WZ queues...just a few of the things which come to mind that almost made me unsub and that's just PvP stuff.

I agree with you about the long term though. I think we are in good shape. Smaller, incremental updates are better than waiting months for big buggy ones. This game is way too good for people not to play it for free. You would have to be a moron not to. Servers are going to esplode. Not to mention that BW has restaffed and seems to be back on the right track.

So the future does look bright. Doesn't mean though that the past wasn't pretty dark. BW made some serious mistakes. Props to them for owning those mistakes and coming correct.

Even if that were true (which it is not), that's not quite the same thing. In STO and CO those sets can be worn by all characters at the same time. You don't have to mail it back and forth every time you want to switch characters.

No, the prices should still be lowered.

Are there going to be more color crystals? All I've seen so far is the orange one.

Pink-purple and white crystals are available in the packs. There are also quite a few other colours to be found in newly-introduced game files.

So CO and STO have global unlocks for costumes. Big deal.

The Secret World doesn't have global unlocks for costume sets or weapons, nor do they allow you to mail them back and forth between characters. On top of that you can't pick and choose which costume pieces you want to wear from a set. You either wear the whole set or none at all.

They also sell individual character titles for as much as $20 bucks each per character.

In GW2 players can trade in ingame currency for credit in their cash shop and never spend a single dime.

STO sells lockboxes that require buying a key as well to open them.

What other companies choose to do with their cash shop items has no bearing on this game. For every example one person can come up with that's better than this cash shop someone else can find other examples that are a lot worse than what we are going to have here.

Um, yes it does. The first two packs they offered were sets that unlocked for all characters on the account. I know because I have them.

So, because one game gouges, they all should feel free to do the same? That's stupid. If large retail stores ran like that they would all be out of business and Ma and Pop shops would rule the world.

That's an interesting way to do it. Too bad that game sucks. And btw, STO has a similar system where you can earn dilithium and trade it with other players for credits in their cash shop.

And that's one of the primary reasons why I no longer play that game. I am against TOR putting exclusive items in "gamble boxes" too.

What other games do can show a marketing team how to price their items fairly based on feedback from their customers. Duh. Where do you think they got the basis for most of these prices in the first place? From other games with similar cash shops. The thing is they got their prices from the wrong games considering they are applying them to a game that encourages altaholism.