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Axes? Really?


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ImperialSun
11.09.2012 , 11:29 AM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
As with many things when designing and implementing an MMO, it's a practical decision. People are clever and will distort and contort any and every mechanic within an MMO. Faster then developers can even imagine or interdict. So as a practical matter, you build major aspects of a class from the ground up while trying hard to balance all the classes as you flesh them out to playability for release. A free for all weapons approach (or armor for that matter, or any other equipable item that influences combat) introduces complete chaos into game balance/play when humans are involved.

That said, it's also pretty clear that as an MMO ages and evolves, the developers add more freedoms and latitudes bit by bit as they go along. Things that add to player desire, without injecting complete chaos into the MMO (in terms of either lore or mechanics). The Gamorean Axes in the cartel shop are a good example of this. They fit within the lore and enabling them for the "melee power" classes is consistent with the lore and also consistent with physics. So the only downside I see in this particular weapon being introduced is we will see some female body type 1s wielding dual axes that are probably a big as they are (as I do not think they have weapon scale to body size implemented in this MMO, unlike some others). AND.. being one among many of the clever humans that play this MMO, I am inclined to roll a female body type 1 Juggernaut just to enjoy the absurdity of her wielding two giant axes like they were Ninja Daggers.
Thanks for the lesson most helpful...I guess I cut my MMORPG teeth on SWG and was spoilt by the free form nature, freedom, options and depth that the game had...light years ahead of its time really (no pun intended lol).

Then again, SWG never was very balanced lol so I do see your point

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irishfino
11.09.2012 , 11:30 AM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
AND.. being one among many of the clever humans that play this MMO, I am inclined to roll a female body type 1 Juggernaut just to enjoy the absurdity of her wielding two giant axes like they were Ninja Daggers.
Psst, you need a Marauder to dual-wield.
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armphid
11.09.2012 , 11:36 AM | #63
A lot of good comments here but I think the biggest one to remember is that one of the big things that MMO players often cite as something they enjoy is character customization. It's one of the reasons games like City of Heroes stuck around for years well after the bulk of their play group moved on; you could customize the appearance of your character to an almost ridiculous extent.

Adding weapons like the axes is a way to offer players a little more customization. I'm not planning on using them for any of my characters but I think it's cool that they're out there as an option if people want them.

Makes a nice alternate weapon too for any one who wants to RP a Jedi/Sith who's "turned away from the Order" or started following some new ethic like the Mandalorian honor code or what have you, since the lightsaber is such a symbol.
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Andryah
11.09.2012 , 11:38 AM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by irishfino View Post
Psst, you need a Marauder to dual-wield.
LOL.... yeah... correct.

Fixed it... and now for some moar coffee as I see that I clearly need it.
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Andryah
11.09.2012 , 11:41 AM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by ImperialSun View Post
Then again, SWG never was very balanced lol so I do see your point
Indeed!

And admittedly, that is what some people like in an MMO..... but if I was an MMO producer I would not be able to stand the QQ about balance issues that would ensue in a modern MMO forum from an SWG style lack of balance.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.

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Meepbot
11.09.2012 , 11:44 AM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by Xenirath View Post
Am I the only one who wants to be a nunchuck wielding abraham lincoln sith lord?

Or maybe duel wield shields?
Or maybe we could all make believe that a cow is a tavern

On topic as to why axes cant be cut by lightsabers, Im pretty sure it says in the wookiepedia article on lightsabers that in the beginning when normal swords were still common, they started being weaved with cortosis, another lightsaber-resistant metal, in order to stand up to these new, fancy glowsticks
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Andryah
11.09.2012 , 11:49 AM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by Meepbot View Post
Or maybe we could all make believe that a cow is a tavern
I'm troubled by the possible entrances to said tavern.

Quote: Originally Posted by Meepbot View Post
On topic as to why axes cant be cut by lightsabers, Im pretty sure it says in the wookiepedia article on lightsabers that in the beginning when normal swords were still common, they started being weaved with cortosis, another lightsaber-resistant metal, in order to stand up to these new, fancy glowsticks
I agree. If there were not technological counters to light-sabers... everyone who did not have one in the galaxy would be dead.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.

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LoL-K-Noob
11.09.2012 , 11:53 AM | #68
YES!!! I want them to add stuff like katanas etc.. I hope they take that route and add a variety of things I would definetly buy

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Andryah
11.09.2012 , 11:55 AM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by LoL-K-Noob View Post
I want them to add stuff like katanas
That's a bit like expecting the Korean MMOs to put lightsabers into their gear sets.

Besides.. it would lead to people roleplaying ninjas. Ninjas in MMOs are bad.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.

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GnatB
11.09.2012 , 11:57 AM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by Kendaric View Post
Well, there are several types of metal a lightsaber can't cut through in Star Wars lore, so that's not really an issue. Also, axes are traditionally used by Gamorrean warriors as their weapon of choice and I'm sure a number of other species use them as well.
Ah Hah! You figured it out! This is just preparing the way for playable Gamorrean's. Haven't you wanted to be a Gamorrean Jedi?