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All Hail the New Era: Goodbye NJO

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All Hail the New Era: Goodbye NJO

Beniboybling's Avatar

11.08.2012 , 04:20 PM | #1
This discussion arose from another about the EU, but I was curious as what the general reaction would be. What would you say if Disney erased the NJO era, by labelling it as non-canon (but left the New Republic era alone) and replaced it with the new trilogy as well as brand new EU comics, novels etcera? Would you be happy to see it go? Or are there parts of the NJO that you see too important to lose?

And what would you say to the current NJO era becoming an alternate, non-canon universe? (like Star Wars: Infinities) Personally I think this is the best way forward for Disney and Lucasfilm, thoughts?

Lord_Karsk's Avatar

11.08.2012 , 04:24 PM | #2
Sounds to me they got a writer that knows about the EU, and havbe a very good taste in movies
Since winning the Oscar for Sunshine, Arndt has lectured extensively on the art of storytelling at numerous writers’ retreats, like the Hawaii Writers Conference in Maui and the Austin Film Festival, always featuring a lengthy and detailed explanation of why the original Star Wars’ ending is so creatively satisfying.

At these talks, Arndt always tells attendees that Star Wars’ enduring appeal has to do with resolving its protagonists goals’ nearly simultaneously, at the climax of the movie. In the comments section of a discussion about a Star Wars talk Arndt gave at the Austin Film Festival in 2010, one attendee of the seminar notes, "Arndt stated that if a writer could resolve the story's arcs (internal, external, philosophical) immediately after the Moment of Despair at the climax, he or she would deliver the Insanely Great Ending and put the audience in a euphoric state. The faster it could happen, the better. By [Arndt’s] reckoning, George Lucas hit those three marks at the climax of Star Wars within a space of 22 seconds."

Indeed, in the third act of Star Wars, as Arndt explained to his young screenwriting Padawans at the 2009 Hawaii Writers Conference, its central characters' main goals all are met on pages 89 through 91 of the original Lucas script: At the crescendo of Star Wars, a spectral Obi Wan urges, “Use the Force, Luke,” and he does, thus reaching his inner goal (fighting self-doubt to become a hero). Han Solo reappears (meeting the philosophical goal of overcoming selfishness with altruism) to shoot down Darth Vader, which allows Luke to use the Force to mentally guide his shot and blow up the Death Star (outer goal and inner goals simultaneously met).

So while it remains to be seen whether Arndt will forge ahead with an entire script for Episode VII, clearly, as Vader might say, “The Force is strong with this one.”

Bird_of_Thunder's Avatar

11.08.2012 , 05:28 PM | #3
the post-OT canon is fine as-is
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Scathe's Avatar

11.08.2012 , 08:55 PM | #4
Personally, I'm happy that the NJO won't be considered canon anymore. With the exception of the Dark Tide Duology (I love me some Shedao Shai) and the Anakin Solo centric Edge of Victory, the rest wasn't that great. I could certainly do without Balance Point and Jacen's whining. But as a whole, the series just wasn't that great.

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11.08.2012 , 11:02 PM | #5
I am really not going to miss the Vong either.
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Beniboybling's Avatar

11.09.2012 , 11:57 AM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Lord_Karsk View Post
Sounds to me they got a writer that knows about the EU, and havbe a very good taste in movies
Very interesting info, an expert on Star Wars as a writer is just what these new films need.

P.S. This is all just speculation guys, what I posted here isn't going to happen - i just see it as the best course of action and am interested to see what people's reaction would be.

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11.09.2012 , 12:03 PM | #7
I would be ecstatic. What I've read of post-RotJ was terribly painful, shallow, uninteresting, and made Star Wars as a whole an unpleasant experience for me. Knowing that it's not canon brings me great comfort, and I hope they drive that last nail in the coffin.

When droids use the Force, Palpatine becomes the product of a clown-car evil-dude generator, and the Force is akin to Dragonball Z's powers, nothing has meaning anymore.

Beniboybling's Avatar

11.09.2012 , 12:49 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by ZoeTuah View Post
When droids use the Force.
Droids use the Force in post-ROTJ!

My reaction - Do it Disney! Kill NJO! Kill it now!

maxetius's Avatar

11.09.2012 , 03:45 PM | #9
The NJO was no more poorly written than 90% of the EU, it should be pointed out.

GarfieldJL's Avatar

11.09.2012 , 08:19 PM | #10
I don't like the possibility that they are making Ben Skywalker noncanon potentially... He was born in the NJO era.