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Xenirath
11.07.2012 , 10:15 AM | #311
Quote: Originally Posted by amnie View Post
heh, I guess that's a risk that they've got to take. I mean it's not like it's any different right now. someone brought up something interesting a while ago in regards to this: why can we romance a female twi'lek but not a male one?
Because Male twileck's don't exist, they are like Male Asari. And before you say "Yea I saw one!" Nope! that was just an OPTICAL ILLUSION!
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amnie
11.07.2012 , 10:18 AM | #312
Quote: Originally Posted by Xenirath View Post
Because Male twileck's don't exist, they are like Male Asari. And before you say "Yea I saw one!" Nope! that was just an OPTICAL ILLUSION!
oh, my shadow wouldn't mind. she thinks said 'male twi'lek' is rather... out there... anyway. (*cough*)

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ImperialSun
11.07.2012 , 10:32 AM | #313
Quote: Originally Posted by Revanchis View Post
While I have lots of things to say about that they tow a bit too close to the TOS so I'll just leave it there.

As for the issue of it being upcoming content it was declared as such earlier in the year. Those comments have not been rescinded, so while some of those people are no longer employed. The comments as such stay with Bioware regardless of whether or not those people are working there or not, as they made those comments as extensions of the company and not as private individuals. I repeat my earlier response of, the stock response mentions no new information. Wouldn't cancelling this upcoming feature count as new information relating to it?

While we can't say with 100% certainty that it is coming, we can at least say it with 80% certainty
There has never been one confirmaion from BW that SGR is in fact definitely being added to the game. Had there been it would be pasted all over this thread and would be displayed in people forum sigs. All we have is vague posts from staff members who were here at the time saying generic things like "Sure we'd love to have that in game and its something we would like to add soon...." etc.....this does not amount to any kind of formal confirmation that the feature is even being worked on let alone definitely happening.

If this is 80% certain to be happening (which makes no sense in and of itself btw - you are either certain or not) then why is there no official word on it? Why was Hall Hoods tweet deleted and why is it continually ignored in QA sessions? I'm not trying to play devils advocate here I am just trying to point out many pro SGR posters talk about this is a feature that is pending or soon to be released however the weight of evidence suggests the opposite so I am wondering where you get the "80% certainty" from lol?

Driz

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amnie
11.07.2012 , 10:38 AM | #314
Quote: Originally Posted by ImperialSun View Post
There has never been one confirmaion from BW that SGR is in fact definitely being added to the game. Had there been it would be pasted all over this thread and would be displayed in people forum sigs. All we have is vague posts from staff members who were here at the time saying generic things like "Sure we'd love to have that in game and its something we would like to add soon...." etc.....this does not amount to any kind of formal confirmation that the feature is even being worked on let alone definitely happening.

If this is 80% certain to be happening (which makes no sense in and of itself btw - you are either certain or not) then why is there no official word on it? Why was Hall Hoods tweet deleted and why is it continually ignored in QA sessions? I'm not trying to play devils advocate here I am just trying to point out many pro SGR posters talk about this is a feature that is pending or soon to be released however the weight of evidence suggests the opposite so I am wondering where you get the "80% certainty" from lol?

Driz

yeah I guess them saying at the guild summit that it's definitely comming is not a valid statement.

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ImperialSun
11.07.2012 , 10:50 AM | #315
Quote: Originally Posted by amnie View Post
yeah I guess them saying at the guild summit that it's definitely comming is not a valid statement.
Lots of things were discussed at the Guild Summit...

There are lots of features that have been labelled as definitely coming...speech bubbles for example....a super secret space project for example.....

Does that mean we can class all of these features as actually happening?

Didnt think so...

I just think the pro SGR community is grasping at straws, the fact that nothing has been said by anyone in authority for months, plus the fact that the only recent positive mention was very quickly deleted from twitter speaks volumes imo...

If SGRs do ever make it in to the game, it would not surprise me if they were added to the Cartel Store as someting that can be purchased by those that want the specific additional content. Along with speech bubbles and a number of other features that BW have been saying is "in the works" for the last year or so...

Driz

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Captain_Zone
11.07.2012 , 11:18 AM | #316
Quote: Originally Posted by Xenirath View Post
Because Male twileck's don't exist, they are like Male Asari. And before you say "Yea I saw one!" Nope! that was just an OPTICAL ILLUSION!
Female Twi'lek kissing female Twi'lek.... I'll be in my bunk.
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Tatile
11.07.2012 , 12:33 PM | #317
Quote: Originally Posted by ImperialSun View Post
"those who say they would quite the game over SGRA's being introduced should be given an idea of when they can expect to do so"

Wow...such arrogance.

It's almost as if you have an actual official confirmation from BW that SGR's are definitely being implemented rather than maybe half a dozen vague statements made by designers / writers that no longer work for the company.

You got an official source for confirmation that SGR's are even happening?

Driz
Fair point, it did come off a bit aggressive, but some people have threatened to quit over the content. We can only assume that Stephen Reid and Daniel Erickson, and lately Gabe Amatengelo and Hall Hood, have been correct in saying that they intend to introduce SGRA's and that SGRA's are coming this year (or with Makeb, with regards to Mr. Amatengelo in that case).

And no, we have no official statement as of yet, which is why I encourage people to ask about them - and yes, even if you don't want the content, if you feel so strongly against it, you should ask as well (and I mean the generic you, not specifically you, though you may not want the content, I don't know). It would be unfair to those who want the content and to those who wish to avoid it, just to slip it onto the PTS unannounced.

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Uluain
11.07.2012 , 01:43 PM | #318
Yes, we really do have official statements that same-gender companion romances will be implemented.

Quote: Originally Posted by Stephen Reid
Due to the design constraints of a fully voiced MMO of this scale and size, many choices had to be made as to the launch and post-launch feature set. Same gender romances with companion characters in Star Wars: The Old Republic will be a post-launch feature. Because The Old Republic is an MMO, the game will live on through content expansions which allow us to include content and features that could not be included at launch, including the addition of more companion characters who will have additional romance options.
Not "we may want to do that some day" but "will be a feature". Reid made that statement in his capacity as Community Manager, just as Daniel Erickson announced that the content would come this year in his capacity as Lead Writer at the Guild Summit. That is, two official statements from BioWare promising this content. I am sorry if that makes you unhappy, but the decision has been made. Now it's just a waiting game to see how and when.

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Uluain
11.07.2012 , 04:17 PM | #319
Although it really would help settle this point if BioWare would make a current statement, in light of the current state of the game, reaffirming that commitment. That the Community Team cannot even confirm that previous statements are still applicable is disappointing.

Yes, that was worth its own post to say.

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Tatile
11.07.2012 , 05:05 PM | #320
Quote: Originally Posted by Uluain View Post
Although it really would help settle this point if BioWare would make a current statement, in light of the current state of the game, reaffirming that commitment. That the Community Team cannot even confirm that previous statements are still applicable is disappointing.

Yes, that was worth its own post to say.
As some people appear to have noted in the State of the Game thread, it seems that not all the information is coming from the forums and reaching the staff at Bioware. That leads one to question whether or not the Community Team are actually doing their job - particularly if bug reports from the PTS are (and have, previously) making it to live - perhaps their job description is too restrictive? "Information only goes out"?