Please upgrade your browser for the best possible experience.

Chrome Firefox Internet Explorer
×

Developer Update: Technical Changes in Game Update 1.5

STAR WARS: The Old Republic > English > General Discussion
Developer Update: Technical Changes in Game Update 1.5
First BioWare Post First BioWare Post

sandisrd's Avatar


sandisrd
11.05.2012 , 09:27 AM | #161
I think its great wen BW takes graphic aspect seriously forward (I am hoping for future texture pack!), and really takes time on updates, moreover we all want to see good improvements.

I am looking forward to update 1.5...
Collector's edition owner
''Blindness of Democracy has grown her roots in every one of us, it's up to us individually to find it and eliminated it!'' - Darth Imperius

Belwyn's Avatar


Belwyn
11.05.2012 , 11:08 AM | #162
I think guild wars 2 is an example of what the graphics in this game should have been, I still don't understand why bioware went with this cartoony graphics. The game is going to look old very soon, specially with the new games and new engines coming out.

hopefully they have plans for graphical improvement in the future, more than shiny plants.
PC Alienware Aurora: Windows 7 64-bit | XFX 6990 Black Edition 2GB GDDR5 | Intel i7-2600k 8 Cores 4.00GHz | 12GB Memory DDR3 | 500GB Samsung SSD | x2 2TB WD HDD's | Watercooled | Samsung 30" 2560x1600

Thylbanus's Avatar


Thylbanus
11.06.2012 , 12:20 AM | #163
Quote: Originally Posted by Belwyn View Post
I think guild wars 2 is an example of what the graphics in this game should have been, I still don't understand why bioware went with this cartoony graphics. The game is going to look old very soon, specially with the new games and new engines coming out.

hopefully they have plans for graphical improvement in the future, more than shiny plants.
Having been a beta tester, they are slowly moving to a more realistic look for the characters. Gradually over time the skins have become more an more realistic (facial hair stubble, blemishes, and the rest). In beta they were dressed up versions of Clone Wars, now not so much. Hopefully they will continue to move in that direction.
It's amazing how loud a dollar can be.
"Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." - Kristin Wilson

Soluss's Avatar


Soluss
11.06.2012 , 01:51 AM | #164
I use to think the graphics were pretty good. Then I played other games again and came back. I realized that not only are the graphics crap but you get ****** performance for what they are.
James Ohlen: " For 2012 we really want players to feel like they're getting their money's worth. You're going to see so many changes and additions to the Star Wars Universe. It's going to be impressive. We have our Update 1.2 coming in the next week and then after that it's going to continue to roll out month after month. It's exciting."

Fornix's Avatar


Fornix
11.06.2012 , 02:33 AM | #165
Quote: Originally Posted by Carousel_t View Post
fix general performance and environmental performance first.
Shaders play an important role in graphical performance. We do not know what they changed, asides from it looking different the code may also have been optimized further to enhance performance. Beyond that, performance is not all too bad. In many areas a 100+ fps is not impossible, and an fps of approx 50 - 60 in warzones is also not out of the question; on highest settings at 1080p.
Member of <Helix>

Soluss's Avatar


Soluss
11.06.2012 , 02:47 AM | #166
Quote: Originally Posted by Fornix View Post
Shaders play an important role in graphical performance. We do not know what they changed, asides from it looking different the code may also have been optimized further to enhance performance. Beyond that, performance is not all too bad. In many areas a 100+ fps is not impossible, and an fps of approx 50 - 60 in warzones is also not out of the question; on highest settings at 1080p.
FPS doesnt necessarily mean performance issues. I have around 110 FPS while alone and still get like 60-70 in a raid setting. Some things will bring my machine to a crawl. Other things will make me hitch/stutter or lag spike. Other things give graphical issues. Other things have UI problems/load screen problems/long load times/screwed up things when you shut the game down/memmory leaks/ability lag or no fire or registered fire with nothing happening or ability no fire with a cooldown anyways.... all those things have nothing to do with FPS and everything to do with performance.
James Ohlen: " For 2012 we really want players to feel like they're getting their money's worth. You're going to see so many changes and additions to the Star Wars Universe. It's going to be impressive. We have our Update 1.2 coming in the next week and then after that it's going to continue to roll out month after month. It's exciting."

Fornix's Avatar


Fornix
11.06.2012 , 06:30 AM | #167
Quote: Originally Posted by Soluss View Post
FPS doesnt necessarily mean performance issues. I have around 110 FPS while alone and still get like 60-70 in a raid setting. Some things will bring my machine to a crawl. Other things will make me hitch/stutter or lag spike. Other things give graphical issues. Other things have UI problems/load screen problems/long load times/screwed up things when you shut the game down/memmory leaks/ability lag or no fire or registered fire with nothing happening or ability no fire with a cooldown anyways.... all those things have nothing to do with FPS and everything to do with performance.
FPS is a good performance indicator, as if something brings your machine to crawl you obviously don't have a 100FPS there. A lot of which probably boils down to hardware and/or driver issues however. As personally I have no slowdowns. So either it's a hardware problem per se, or the game is conflicting with certain drivers or vice versa.

Also in terms of loading screen issues, I have none with the average loading screen taking roughly 5 seconds. SSD's work like a charm. Sure on traditional HDD it may take time, however, that's primarily a hardware issue moreso than a general performance issue.

As for the last part of your text "ability lag or no fire or registered fire with nothing happening or ability no fire with a cooldown anyways"... I couldn't descramble.
Member of <Helix>

Soluss's Avatar


Soluss
11.06.2012 , 06:44 AM | #168
Quote: Originally Posted by Fornix View Post
FPS is a good performance indicator, as if something brings your machine to crawl you obviously don't have a 100FPS there. A lot of which probably boils down to hardware and/or driver issues however. As personally I have no slowdowns. So either it's a hardware problem per se, or the game is conflicting with certain drivers or vice versa.

Also in terms of loading screen issues, I have none with the average loading screen taking roughly 5 seconds. SSD's work like a charm. Sure on traditional HDD it may take time, however, that's primarily a hardware issue moreso than a general performance issue.

As for the last part of your text "ability lag or no fire or registered fire with nothing happening or ability no fire with a cooldown anyways"... I couldn't descramble.
Look man, I have no reason to lie. I get 100FPS most of the time. You also should not need an SSD to run a pos game.

As for the part you cant descramble if you dont know about ability lag or delay or fires that dont happen then you are just lying. Its well documented here.

As for everything else... no its not a damn hardware issue. Just because you dont have problems doesnt mean other people do. Enough of hardware issue crap. I can run any game, on max settings without a hitch, except this one. This game doesnt have the graphics to have such ****** performance. Its their crappy coding and their crappy engine, not my hardware.
James Ohlen: " For 2012 we really want players to feel like they're getting their money's worth. You're going to see so many changes and additions to the Star Wars Universe. It's going to be impressive. We have our Update 1.2 coming in the next week and then after that it's going to continue to roll out month after month. It's exciting."

FunkyXLIOi's Avatar


FunkyXLIOi
11.06.2012 , 08:13 AM | #169
Quote: Originally Posted by Ismercu View Post
There was a similar update with 1.4 who brought very bad performance problems including low FPS and stuttering for alot of people also including crashing and texture glitches that are still not resolved right now. Make sure you test your patches appropriately before you implement them.
I had this problem big time with both my Nvidia and Radeon machines after 1.4 - still can't use my Nvidia machine even after the patches. For me, the problem seems to worsen as the number of players active in a given instance increases.

Even so, I must add that I love the graphics in the game and welcome the effort that goes into updating/improving them.

BUT each new update also needs to bring fixes to exisitng problems - nothing irritates me more (and it seems just about everyone else!) than when a new patch only adds to the list of exisitng issues.

I have been playing 1.5 on the public test server on and off for the past week - completed Tython and Coruscant so far. The graphics run considerably smoother (for me, anyway) on my Radeon than the current 1.4 version on the live server. Hope this is true for others trying it too. Still, there are considerably fewer other players active at the same time on the PTS.

R-Tee-Doo-Tee's Avatar


R-Tee-Doo-Tee
11.06.2012 , 10:36 AM | #170
ignore the naysayers

yes other things need changing in game right now and maybe other things need fixing
but the finished results in this feature are amazingly different. I work in graphic design and those before and after pictures are like chalk and cheese the new look really pops out at you.

Whoever the guy is in charge of this project needs a slap on the back or at least a few hours off work
courtesy of the management.

This is a job well done and to all the trolls and pessimistic folk just remember
a positive thing towards the game is just that a positive. This change will make your online star wars
world look nicer and come alive. Embrace the good things and by all means moan about the bad.
But dont whine over something as good as this