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this "original story" might not even mess with the current EU

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this "original story" might not even mess with the current EU

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jarjarloves
11.02.2012 , 09:27 PM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by Emperor_Kakashi View Post
And the video games? They make a lot of money too. EU isn't just the books.

As for the link, that has the books as earning more than 1%.



http://marvel.com/universe/Loki
the video games have never been considered canon. for the most parts. Yeah the old republic sort of has but thats so far away that no one cares. Things like Masters of Teras Kasi and Star Wars demolition have not. Or the RTS like Galactic Battlegrounds or the beloved Battlefront is also not canon.

As for loki haven't heard that one is that a new origin story?

Like I said the comic universe have been rewritten so many times and sure people complain for a bit but they still read them.

The key is keeping to what makes Star Wars Star wars. As long as they get the tone of the movies right it doesn't matter if its a new story or not.

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Emperor_Kakashi
11.02.2012 , 09:37 PM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by jarjarloves View Post
the video games have never been considered canon. for the most parts. Yeah the old republic sort of has but thats so far away that no one cares. Things like Masters of Teras Kasi and Star Wars demolition have not. Or the RTS like Galactic Battlegrounds or the beloved Battlefront is also not canon.
Pretty sure the video games are still considered canon on the level of the books and comics, at least for now. And you're forgetting games like TFU. Battlefront, as far as I'm aware, is considered canon, not sure about Demolition and Galactic Battlegrounds.

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Like I said the comic universe have been rewritten so many times and sure people complain for a bit but they still read them.
This I agree to. Star Wars will be the same; no matter how much hate the fans will have toward the new movies, they'll watch them.

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Beniboybling
11.03.2012 , 07:14 AM | #33
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The problem is

Why can't they keep the EU and make new movie at that same time? Just choose another era.
Thats not so easy, look at a Star Wars timeline and you'll find its pretty full up. Sure they could create an entirely new era after Krayt and that but i'm not sure they'd want to. As someone said, the majority of the fans just watch the films and maybe play some games, they'll want to work of material already in the original trilogy. However I see no reason why they can't remould the EU - I mean really how important are those obscure post ROTJ comics and books anyway. The Thrawn Trilogy of course has to stay, but characters like Mara Jade, Thrawn, Jerec and Kyle Katarn can be taken and implemented into a new trilogy, maybe reworking some of the things already in the EU and creating new storyline that hasn't yet been covered, it could work. But it depends on how 'original' they want this trilogy to be.

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Mike_Sierra
11.03.2012 , 07:26 AM | #34
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In 2009 Jim Dorey of the blog, Marketsaw, had an anonymous source contact him and claimed that Lucasfilm were already working on Star Wars: Episodes VII, VIII & IX. And just a short while ago that same anonymous source provided more information about the planned sequels which you can check out in full here, or you can read the key points below. Some of them condensed by Bleeding Cool.


Luke Skywalker is a primary focus, as are many of the original trilogy cast (Han Solo, Chewbacca, Princess Leia, C3PO and R2D2). Disney also realised that George Lucas and STAR WARS are one and the same, so George will certainly have a voice on any angle taken, in fact I believe it's one of many stipulations. However he will no longer have creative control,

I don't believe the empire was completely destroyed by the end of Return of the Jedi.

Mark Hamill is a certainty.

There are two trilogies planned, all following an original overview by Lucas, which was always planned as a multi generational saga. Movies 10 - 12 are from my understanding about the offspring of the Skywalkers, set many years later with the surviving cast playing much older versions of themselves and featuring a female protagonist named Skywalker.

The movies from what I understand will adopt the Harry Potter model, and will be aggressively brought to the forefront of popular entertainment once again with consistent installments.

Rewritten from previously secret drafts from way back during the making of the original trilogy. The main problem was the age of the cast, and the tone of the story. You will see a tone more in line with the original trilogy, and specifically featuring that cast

Live action TV show - The scripts already written will be absorbed in some way into a TV format. Basically they are 45 minute long feature films. With concepts that are very ambitious and the fact that it focuses on characters that are not known and are completely different to what people may have in mind about a STARWARS TV show.

Disney are “all over” restoring the original trilogy.

This mysterious source also lists the names of some directors that were being “bandied about” – Steven Spielberg, Neill Blomkamp, Alfonso Cuaron, Matthew Vaughn, Darren Aronofsky and Joss Whedon.

Read more at http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansit...DURfu5KqDzk.99

Not sure how true this is.

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Beniboybling
11.03.2012 , 07:39 AM | #35
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Not sure how true this is.
I also read this with a truck load of salt. It has some credibility for predicting the new episodes in 2009 (although that could easily be false). But I'm pretty sure this isn't true

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Captain_Zone
11.03.2012 , 10:10 AM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by Crawelc View Post
I just want them to retcon everything except the 6 movies. There should be no reason that Disney doesn't go their own direction with movies, comics, t.v. shows or anything else. Im sorry but im old and anything star wars past RoTJ has sucked. Jedi Knight 2 was playable but seriously we need a retcon on anything past EP.6
So you want another "Highlander" cluster****.... Seriously, that's what happens when NOBODY pays attention to continuity. Good luck with that.
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Crawelc
11.03.2012 , 12:30 PM | #37
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So you want another "Highlander" cluster****.... Seriously, that's what happens when NOBODY pays attention to continuity. Good luck with that.
And what is the star wars univers now if not to use your words a cluster****. I fail in the highlander reference I guess. Thought the TV show was better than any of the movies.
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Captain_Zone
11.03.2012 , 01:08 PM | #38
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And what is the star wars univers now if not to use your words a cluster****. I fail in the highlander reference I guess. Thought the TV show was better than any of the movies.
Right now, the ExU does have continuity, even if the stories have gotten to the "Dragonball Z" realm of ridiculousness. The continuity of the franchise is kept in check by Leland Chee, since that's his job. I agree with you that the Highlander TV series was way better than any of the movies. Doesn't change the fact that no effort was made to keep that universe coherent as far as continuity goes.

With Star Wars, we've never had a Highlander moment where something in one novel is completely destroyed by the next novel. Highlander being destroyed by Highlander II, for example. Or that ill-advised cartoon series that takes place in a post-apocalyptic wasteland.

One thing we've always had in Star Wars was continuity. Those who claim that George never cared about the Expanded Universe need to do some more research before speaking. In fact, he did a LOT to keep the Prequels in line with the established Expanded Universe. Using the name Coruscant for the Capital of the Republic. Including Aayla Secura in the ranks of the Jedi. Using the term Mandalorians when referring to Fett's people. NONE of those terms were George Lucas creations, yet he used them so that he could keep some form of continuity with what was already established.

Even the account of The Clone Wars in The Thrawn Trilogy was kept as a rumor, since the "insane clones" was true from a certain point of view. For those not knowing about Order 66, the clones attacking and killing Jedi for no apparent reason would look like insanity.
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jarjarloves
11.03.2012 , 02:32 PM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by Emperor_Kakashi View Post
Pretty sure the video games are still considered canon on the level of the books and comics, at least for now. And you're forgetting games like TFU. Battlefront, as far as I'm aware, is considered canon, not sure about Demolition and Galactic Battlegrounds.



This I agree to. Star Wars will be the same; no matter how much hate the fans will have toward the new movies, they'll watch them.
Battlefront just takes battles that we know happend and allows you to play in them. Allthough if one side wins a battle thats not canon.

TFU is a weird one. They say it's canon supposedly G-canon but it in no way fits into the actual canon. It doesn't even fit into C-canon. I mean you talk to Yoda on Degobah so how did this not come up when he talked to Luke?

"Oh hey watch out there is another Jedi who can pull entire Star Destroyers out of space. "

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Captain_Zone
11.03.2012 , 04:38 PM | #40
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Battlefront just takes battles that we know happend and allows you to play in them. Allthough if one side wins a battle thats not canon.

TFU is a weird one. They say it's canon supposedly G-canon but it in no way fits into the actual canon. It doesn't even fit into C-canon. I mean you talk to Yoda on Degobah so how did this not come up when he talked to Luke?

"Oh hey watch out there is another Jedi who can pull entire Star Destroyers out of space. "
TFU is G-Canon???? Ummm, no. The Canon story in it is C-Canon at best, like with all Star Wars videogames that actually have multiple branching story paths. One outcome is C-Canon, while all the other endiings are N-Canon. TFU would have to be written or co-written by George Lucas himself to be G-Canon.

Who the hell ever said it was G-Canon???
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Joran Karn: You, my dear Sith, have just mastered the art of understatement.