Please upgrade your browser for the best possible experience.

Chrome Firefox Internet Explorer
×

Thankfully, a nail in the coffin of the EU

STAR WARS: The Old Republic > English > STAR WARS Discussion
Thankfully, a nail in the coffin of the EU

Beniboybling's Avatar


Beniboybling
11.02.2012 , 11:57 AM | #91
Quote: Originally Posted by Captain_Zone View Post
John Williams is Star Wars Music. If it wasn't for John Williams' music, the Prequels would have been completely unwatchable.
Hey hey hey, lets not start prequel bashing here - Revenge of the Sith is my favourite film

Beniboybling's Avatar


Beniboybling
11.02.2012 , 12:06 PM | #92
just had a thought, the Marvel film - Avengers was entirely new work wasn't it? There were already comics on the Avengers and what happened, but they replaced that didn't they? Seeing as that was Disney, and the situation is similar now, the same thing might happen.

VicSkimmr's Avatar


VicSkimmr
11.02.2012 , 12:35 PM | #93
Comics are a little different though. Those have been going on for so long, there are multiple realities, villains die and then are brought back anyway, the heroes change constantly, etc. When they make a movie about it they can be viewed as just another story line within the comic universe. Just look at Spider-Man. How many different versions of Spider-man comics are there? 5? 6?
Quote: Originally Posted by battlebug View Post
can you make sword in box light sword so sword come out when opened? then if sword is back after sword, use light saber on box, and saber will be boxed after sword is out.

Slowpokeking's Avatar


Slowpokeking
11.02.2012 , 01:00 PM | #94
Quote: Originally Posted by VicSkimmr View Post
Comics are a little different though. Those have been going on for so long, there are multiple realities, villains die and then are brought back anyway, the heroes change constantly, etc. When they make a movie about it they can be viewed as just another story line within the comic universe. Just look at Spider-Man. How many different versions of Spider-man comics are there? 5? 6?
SW EU is mostly straight, no parallel universe.

Beniboybling's Avatar


Beniboybling
11.02.2012 , 01:37 PM | #95
Quote: Originally Posted by VicSkimmr View Post
Comics are a little different though. Those have been going on for so long, there are multiple realities, villains die and then are brought back anyway, the heroes change constantly, etc. When they make a movie about it they can be viewed as just another story line within the comic universe. Just look at Spider-Man. How many different versions of Spider-man comics are there? 5? 6?
You have a point there, star wars is set in stone. Marvel is just a universe to play with.

Captain_Zone's Avatar


Captain_Zone
11.02.2012 , 01:37 PM | #96
Quote: Originally Posted by Slowpokeking View Post
SW EU is mostly straight, no parallel universe.
Actually, the ExU is mostly considered a parallel universe that sticks to the films as much as possible. I call it an overlapping universe, since George has used ExU material in the movies. Episodes I - VI are their own self-contained Universe. The George or G-Canon universe. Then there is the Films + Expanded Universe reality that most of us know. It takes George's story and expands on it both prior to and after the movies themselves. With the new Episode VII, IF it is in fact an original story that would retcon the majority of the post-RotJ ExU, it would fall into a different category. G-Canon is done, as far as the movies go. Since George is not going to have his name on VII except on the "Star Wars Created by George Lucas" credit, it won't actually BE G-Canon. I'm calling the new Disney franchise D-Canon for now, and IF the rumors are true and it differs from everything post-RotJ, it would cause an all new Universe. Right now, we have the OT/PT/ExU. WIth the new movies, we'll have the OT/PT/Disney Universe as well. It's a compromise, but it's the most likely option to keep the ExU fans from going completely ballistic.
. OPOD
Shivalka: Darth Baras is quite large, isn't he?
Joran Karn: You, my dear Sith, have just mastered the art of understatement.

Captain_Zone's Avatar


Captain_Zone
11.02.2012 , 01:46 PM | #97
Quote: Originally Posted by Beniboybling View Post
You have a point there, star wars is set in stone. Marvel is just a universe to play with.
Only Episodes I - VI are set in stone. Everything else is.... maleable, for lack of a better term. The different levels of Canon are in place for a reason. G-Canon is the only Absolute. T and C are there to show that it was approved by Lucas, fits with the general plot of the movies, and doesn't stray too far from the spirit of Star Wars. S, and N are there to deal with discrepancies. For example, the account of the Clone Wars given in The Thrawn Trilogy was wrong, and was relegated to S-Canon as a false rumor of what really happened. Since it could be viewed that the Clones went "insane" when Order 66 was given, it had just enough credibility to stick around as an S-Canon rumor. Leland Chee has the unenviable task of making all the pieces fit as much as possible. It's hard when the puzzle keeps changing shape.
. OPOD
Shivalka: Darth Baras is quite large, isn't he?
Joran Karn: You, my dear Sith, have just mastered the art of understatement.

spencer_'s Avatar


spencer_
11.02.2012 , 01:50 PM | #98
Considering how much space and empty time there is to play with in the Star Wars universe, the only way the EU would even be effected is if episodes VII-IX directly contradict what happens there. If they simply choose to tell a story from the EU, or better yet, create a new story that doesn't contradict the EU, then nothing changes. I don't see why people are making baseless assumptions about the status of the canon when we don't even know anything about the story yet. There's a very real possibility that Disney will choose to cover some EU event (like fighting the warlords post ROTJ, or the formation of the New Republic) from a perspective we've never seen before, therefore making an "original" story.

Captain_Zone's Avatar


Captain_Zone
11.02.2012 , 01:59 PM | #99
Quote: Originally Posted by spencer_ View Post
Considering how much space and empty time there is to play with in the Star Wars universe, the only way the EU would even be effected is if episodes VII-IX directly contradict what happens there. If they simply choose to tell a story from the EU, or better yet, create a new story that doesn't contradict the EU, then nothing changes. I don't see why people are making baseless assumptions about the status of the canon when we don't even know anything about the story yet. There's a very real possibility that Disney will choose to cover some EU event (like fighting the warlords post ROTJ, or the formation of the New Republic) from a perspective we've never seen before, therefore making an "original" story.
That's what the rumors are saying already. The press release from Disney that says "Forget everything you knew about Luke, Leia, and Han as far as what happens to them after RotJ". I'm honestly hoping that's just hype and they think better of it. But if it's true, and Disney doesn't handle it right, it WILL piss off a lot of fans. Leland Chee, hopefully, is all over this already.
. OPOD
Shivalka: Darth Baras is quite large, isn't he?
Joran Karn: You, my dear Sith, have just mastered the art of understatement.

Beniboybling's Avatar


Beniboybling
11.02.2012 , 02:17 PM | #100
Quote: Originally Posted by spencer_ View Post
Considering how much space and empty time there is to play with in the Star Wars universe, the only way the EU would even be effected is if episodes VII-IX directly contradict what happens there. If they simply choose to tell a story from the EU, or better yet, create a new story that doesn't contradict the EU, then nothing changes. I don't see why people are making baseless assumptions about the status of the canon when we don't even know anything about the story yet. There's a very real possibility that Disney will choose to cover some EU event (like fighting the warlords post ROTJ, or the formation of the New Republic) from a perspective we've never seen before, therefore making an "original" story.
Sure this is true, but it can't help but having an effect on the EU, it will create 'ripples' if you like which will affect exisiting EU in some way or another, but I agree - sending a bulldozer through the EU is avoidable, but it is difficult.