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Thankfully, a nail in the coffin of the EU

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Thankfully, a nail in the coffin of the EU

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LordPorkins
11.01.2012 , 05:40 AM | #1
It seems Disney intends to take forward Episode 7 with a new storyline. I think this is good news, there will be less of a feeling that a dead horse is being flogged, and hopefully not too many geriatric ex- star wars actors turning up.

Although I can see Mark Hamill coming back as the new Obi Wan Kenobi role.

What is also good news, is that the ridiculous post ROTJ books will not be made into films. Star Wars is the films, for better or for worse, and devaluing the product to make more money by releasing all these books and comics, is a sad reality of the modern world. We don't need to compound this by turning them into films.

The franchise needs a proper reboot, like they achieved with Star Trek, not re-animating second class literature.

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SNCommand
11.01.2012 , 05:46 AM | #2
Re boots and remakes are the scum of the earth, if you don't like what has been done to the universe you create a new IP
Quote: Originally Posted by Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw
Personally I would slap Georges hands away from the editing desk, give him a colouring book and then remake the entire prequel trilogy so that Darth Vader uses the force to win breakdance competitions and chokes to death anyone who utters the word midichlorians.

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LordPorkins
11.01.2012 , 05:54 AM | #3
Sometimes they are done well and breath new life into a franchise. In some cases they improve it.

Look at the new Batman films which are the best ever Batman films. Also the new Star Trek film is arguable the best star trek film ever made. Star Trek the Next Generation was the best star trek tv series and that was a reboot. Casino Royale breathed new life into the tired Bond franchise and by all accounts Skyfall is even better.

There are plenty of examples of successful reimagining or improving on a franchise.

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SNCommand
11.01.2012 , 06:02 AM | #4
The problem though is like you stated, it happens "sometimes"

If it's bad it becomes unnecessary bad baggage that further erodes at the IP universe as many people claim the post-ROTJ EU does to the movies (not me though, I like the whole premise that the empire continued to resist etc), and if it turns out well it could just as well have been done in a new IP, reboots does nothing but make things confusing for the fanbase and make the media in itself stagnate
Quote: Originally Posted by Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw
Personally I would slap Georges hands away from the editing desk, give him a colouring book and then remake the entire prequel trilogy so that Darth Vader uses the force to win breakdance competitions and chokes to death anyone who utters the word midichlorians.

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Rayla_Felana
11.01.2012 , 06:09 AM | #5
I have always preferred EU workings to the films, the attention to detail and background is far greater than anything you can translate to screen.

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Setsugetsuka
11.01.2012 , 06:29 AM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Rayla_Felana View Post
I have always preferred EU workings to the films, the attention to detail and background is far greater than anything you can translate to screen.
This is something I never understood. With a book, you can't focus on background things, as it'd distract from the story, leaving readers to be jarred. However with a movie, you see things, just simple things in the background, you probably won't notice them until you've watched it several more times. Like for example, when Luke first arrives in Mos Eisley, can you imagine a book going to length to describe what was going on? No, it's ridiculous as it'd distract from the plot too much, if it does distract like that, then it's a **** book.

However, in the movie, you see it all, all these things going on, yet the story still happens, yet for that brief second, you glimpsed the magical things that are placed everywhere. Subtle, simple, yet there. Movies > Books for things like that. You can't subtle describe a scene completely in a book, hence why descriptions are brief and vague when it comes to books, unless it's describing something that is either small, simple or easily describable.

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LordPorkins
11.01.2012 , 06:29 AM | #7
Any expanded universe is standing on the shoulders of someone visionary. Whatever else George Lucas has done wrong, he realised a universe onto the cinema screen in a way no one had ever done before and it connected with audiences unlike any fantasy/sci-fi film before.

There are few visionaries in the world. It's easy to write a generic story from another's work, and the expanded universe has nothing unique or special about it.

If Disney go safe and create a one dimensional repetition of the original films, it will be another cashcow reboot. However, if they get someone unique and talented to write and direct the films, the reboot can breath new life into the Star Wars franchise. No novel or comic written by a competent but unimaginitive writer can do that.

A reboot in itself is not a terrible concept. How it is handled is what matters.

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SNCommand
11.01.2012 , 06:31 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Setsugetsuka View Post
This is something I never understood. With a book, you can't focus on background things, as it'd distract from the story, leaving readers to be jarred. However with a movie, you see things, just simple things in the background, you probably won't notice them until you've watched it several more times. Like for example, when Luke first arrives in Mos Eisley, can you imagine a book going to length to describe what was going on? No, it's ridiculous as it'd distract from the plot too much, if it does distract like that, then it's a **** book.

However, in the movie, you see it all, all these things going on, yet the story still happens, yet for that brief second, you glimpsed the magical things that are placed everywhere. Subtle, simple, yet there. Movies > Books for things like that. You can't subtle describe a scene completely in a book, hence why descriptions are brief and vague when it comes to books, unless it's describing something that is either small, simple or easily describable.
I guess it's because people take those small tidbits of information and create their own visions of them, probably why it was for the best not to do any of the books, people tend to get disappointed when things don't equal what they pictured in their mind, I remember the comics dealing with the stories in the books got a lot of flak because of it
Quote: Originally Posted by Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw
Personally I would slap Georges hands away from the editing desk, give him a colouring book and then remake the entire prequel trilogy so that Darth Vader uses the force to win breakdance competitions and chokes to death anyone who utters the word midichlorians.

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LegacyBroken
11.01.2012 , 07:48 AM | #9
I hope its not the final nail in the post ROTJ EU continuity and we won't really know until more details are revealed. I know people are jumping to conclusions after the original story news but that doesn't really tell us much about the EU's fate other then it won't be a movie version of Thrawn or Dark Empire but I don't think any sensible person, even fans of those trilogies thought that was going to happen. It however doesn't mean the EU in its current form is going anywhere. It would be quite easy to create a new trilogy in the Post FOTJ time period that would allow for new stories with the Big Three and the passing of the torch to Jaina and Ben, while allowing the new movies and the Post ROTJ EU continuity to coexist in one overarching universe.

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mefit
11.01.2012 , 07:56 AM | #10
Most likely EU will become the STANDARD and the films will be put in the back when it comes to Canon , like how it is for DC and Marvel .
To be honest , it might not happen today or anyday soon but it won't be long before Marvel takes over the Comic side of EU .
I really Doubt Disney is going to outsource EU Comics to another Company when they own one of the Two Comic Power Houses ...........Marvel ! This does not mean Marvel will do it better or worse , that will be yet to be seen . I think Darkhorse did a good Job in my opinion !

So its not a coffin , but it might be a rewrite of the EU Lore and Story.
As I said before , Luke being married to Mara Jade is likely now the TOP Canon now ! To be honest this is the reason I am happy Lucas is out the way , now the series can grow and G-Canon will no longer stop it !
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