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Stun on sorc bubble break must be changed

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Stun on sorc bubble break must be changed

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DarthBror
10.23.2012 , 03:38 PM | #171
The real problem here is that Sorcs are a support role. Without a Gaurd or someone peeling to help us we are screwed. The DPS classes love us to heal them but could give a crap less when 2 are focusing us down. So out of pure nesscestity we have gone hybrid. I know some of you are going to say, "Well L2P then dude".. Lol ive gone for over 500k full Heal Spec'd and still lost on several occasions. Most healing myself and kiting the DPS thats up my butt.. Ill have like 2-3 deaths but objectives are completely ignored. This build allows me to multi task because im way less worried about getting rolled.

I dont care how elite of a PVPr you are or what spec you run. If your Heals and you get picked up by a determined DPS and no one peels to help you. your screwed.

Your all right. this will be nerfed. But please send us heals some love. protect us and we will heal you., the group will win. If not I will get my 500k in heals, but we will lose over and over.

I also think that if they change this bubble the lightning tree will be worthless for PVE. They will almost certainly have to compensate in some way for it. That will just leave another gaping hole to be exploited by yet another Hybrid build.
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AsiriusNazriel
10.23.2012 , 07:50 PM | #172
Yes please peel your fellow healers. They keep you up, so you should help them out too.

Mad props to my buddy Mort, aka DarthBror. who I vehemently agree to disagree with.

I do think that Sorcs/Sages need to have better survivability, but not at the expense of stunlocking WZs into retardation. The issue here is the Sorc/Sage bubble, not survivability. Hopefully Bioware can adjust both to make it fun for everyone.
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Phasersablaze
10.23.2012 , 08:17 PM | #173
So mele can't have a smashfest anymore when there are a couple bubble sorcs on the other team. Fine by me.

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Jenzali
10.23.2012 , 08:47 PM | #174
If I recall correctly a lot of people opted not to take this talent before 1.4 (even if they went up to the 3rd tier to get the knockback root) precisely because it would fill up resolve when they didn't want it to. Now that 1.4 has introduced major changes to resolve, I would place the blame on those resolve changes.

The second part of the argument is whether or not Sorcs need the extra survivability. I'd say there's no question about it, especially for DPS Sorcs. They need it, but I don't think that their 7 teammates of varying classes need it too. So if resolve is staying as it is then the effect should probably only trigger for the Sorc who casted it.
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SgtBranham
10.26.2012 , 10:21 AM | #175
I love the bubble. Mostly because it puts this song into my head.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw9CALKOvAI

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Aluvi
10.26.2012 , 11:16 AM | #176
The only issue I have with this stun is that it only gives half the amount of resolve that it should. Every other stun in the game gives resolve corresponding to the length of the stun / cc. This gives only half the amount. It takes (I believe) 6 full length bubble stuns to fill a resolve bar. That is 18 seconds of stun, and in PvP, if your entire team is bubbled and they detonate, 1 every 3 seconds, 6 in a row, that is acutally possible.. to stun an entire group for a full 18 seconds.

Not to mention that sorcs are getting smart and no longer just wait for the bubble to break - they break it on purpose while standing in a grp to stun them (right click removes it = boom, stun). I don't mind this, because it takes an above average player to use this strategy, but it can get a little out of hand.
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MidichIorian
10.26.2012 , 01:20 PM | #177
But everyone is fine with a sorc being rooted to the cost of zero resolve.

Because you know, sorcs can take a punch. A does in this particular case actually refer to one.

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LoL-K-Noob
10.26.2012 , 07:13 PM | #178
Quote: Originally Posted by Aluvi View Post
The only issue I have with this stun is that it only gives half the amount of resolve that it should. Every other stun in the game gives resolve corresponding to the length of the stun / cc. This gives only half the amount. It takes (I believe) 6 full length bubble stuns to fill a resolve bar. That is 18 seconds of stun, and in PvP, if your entire team is bubbled and they detonate, 1 every 3 seconds, 6 in a row, that is acutally possible.. to stun an entire group for a full 18 seconds.

Not to mention that sorcs are getting smart and no longer just wait for the bubble to break - they break it on purpose while standing in a grp to stun them (right click removes it = boom, stun). I don't mind this, because it takes an above average player to use this strategy, but it can get a little out of hand.
Nice try but it isnt 6 bubbles to fill resolve, way lower. Spreading misinformation and lies about Sage/Sorces just like when people did at release is in full swing again.

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Royox
10.26.2012 , 07:24 PM | #179
As a vanguard i'm not having much trouble with this...i usually break their bubble in my max range (10m) so I won' get stunned.

If maras and juggs are the ones crying I'm fine with their stunning bubble

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Vikassi
10.26.2012 , 09:22 PM | #180
theyve absolutley ruined this game .. its a disaster right now ..