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Will the game survive 2013 ?

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Will the game survive 2013 ?

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Sarx
10.26.2012 , 12:46 AM | #101
Quote: Originally Posted by LordVilos View Post
Will the game last? Yes. It will. If you want an example just take a look at a game called City of Heroes it is a horrible game yet it has been around for years on a very similar model to this game to be honest and it is still doing just fine it has a worse population than us but the game is still alive. So will this game survive? Imo my opinion yes it will however just don't expect it to get anymore higher populated.

I mean 30 seconds after logging into the game City of Heroes I was like how is this game still alive? Yet it is. That gamw is a very posdible future of swtor.
City of Heroes is shutting down next month.
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HammersteinSW
10.26.2012 , 12:59 AM | #102
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CoX is a bad reference example. CoX did not close because it was not successful. It closed becasue the studio management team got up in the faces of the Korean parent company, and they got slap-smacked for it buy flushing the game. You have an issue with that, write down the names of the management at Paragon Studios and make sure to play one of their products again. They showed extreme arrogance and lack of responsibility by what they tried to do with their parent company. NCsoft made and example of them.
Pardon, but this is not true.

It was shut down because the Korean-Headed Company needed a way to look like they weren't doing jack **** about the fact that NCSoft lost a **** ton of money this year from non-CoX related activities. A bunch of good people lost their jobs, and the COX community lost their game, so that some CEOs in Korea wouldn't get fired.

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LordVilos
10.26.2012 , 01:04 AM | #103
Quote: Originally Posted by Sarx View Post
City of Heroes is shutting down next month.
I know this but my point is look how long it ran for. It was up and running for over 4 years and this game will eventually be shut down too but not within the next 2 years

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Galactarius_
10.26.2012 , 01:33 AM | #104
The game will survive 2013..

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Admiral_Piett
10.26.2012 , 01:36 AM | #105
EA is going to ruin this game. F2P until lv50? What is the point of paying? Take a page from WoW, and give the players items that are actually worth purchasing. WoW might be corny with their pandas, but it was their 4th expansion. WoW killed Everquest. Remember that.

Also, I really liked D&D Online (DDO). Even when the game went to F2P/P2W it was pretty cool. And the store in DDO had items you actually wanted to buy, IE. Classes/Races. Feats/Skills.

I think I remember a certain company getting the DOG POO Award this year....

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Gomla
10.26.2012 , 01:44 AM | #106
I'm thinking of taking bets.

Just reading through this again and we have the same people that said this game will go F2P now saying the game won't last another year.

Those that said this game will never go F2P are saying it will be here for years.

Let's see who wins this one.

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Galactarius_
10.26.2012 , 01:49 AM | #107
I can relate to the OP; these concerns are exactly why i'm so reluctant to invest more time in TOR, when the game might not last very much longer. Could we get a guarantee, of say at least three years? Then i could make some plans. SWG lasted for seven years (!)

Now, if it was only up to BioWare, i think i could trust them to see this project through, you know, with some dignity. But a company like EA, no, i don't trust them at all. I believe that they won't hesitate to shut this down the moment they feel like it. It's about money, not dignity. EA own BioWare (the company), but they have not created the game, so they don't really feel an ownership towards it, the way BioWare naturally would. However, i don't know if there are anyone from the original BioWare crew left now; so they might not feel much ownership or pride either. So i'm sceptical about the future of this game.

I'm stunned by the negativity on these forums BTW. The Old Repbublic is a very well made game and i think many people enjoy it, but they must be the silent minority. I don't know who will end this game; BioWare, EA or the "community"?

I'm going to try for another character; have a good time, dance in the cantina and travel the galaxy. It is my first MMO and it's only because it has a Star Wars theme. It will probably be my last MMO, so i hope to have some good experiences before i leave.

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Glowrod
10.26.2012 , 08:44 AM | #108
Quote: Originally Posted by Arkerus View Post
I'm not sure how you got to this conclusion. The 1-50 leveling is, quite honestly, very easy. Some boss fights take a few tries but if you have the gear from previous quests, its not hard. Would it kill you to go back and get some gear or ask someone for advice on the boss fights? This game doesn't cater to the elite. It's without a doubt, one of the most beginner friendly mmos I have ever played. If you want to talk about elite then lets talk about final fantasy 11 or the original Everquest. How about eve? Those games cater to elitists.

You need perspective. Bioware has gone out of their way to make sure every player has a home here. The leveling experience from 1-50 was explicitly designed to be solo'd. They even talk about the 4 types of players they are marketing to in their past interviews.
Sorry, with the particular fight that I linked, it's definitely not easy. I was level 50, and fully updated gear and fully trained and buffed. I tried half dozen times and never even got the guy to half his life. I did some googling and it seems that the only way to kill this boss is to take advantage of glitched landscapes or something. I couldn't even get that to work.

But this isn't a one time deal. I ran into this all the time. It seems to be the norm with these class bosses that you have to pull out all the stops; have the right companion out, the right buffs, CC the right guys at the exact right time, dodge AoE, Interrupt, and if you do even ONE thing wrong, you wipe, spend 10k for repairs and try again. There's no reason for these fights to be so much work. It's one thing if it's part of a raid, but it's not. I can't just skip it and move on. I HAVE to complete it or the toon can't progress. If I HAVE to complete it, then it's bat **** stupid to make it so hard that only a small percentage of the people can do it.


Like I said, this is the main reason I quit the game, and it certainly drove others away.

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Mateops
10.26.2012 , 08:54 AM | #109
Quote: Originally Posted by Glowrod View Post
Sorry, with the particular fight that I linked, it's definitely not easy. I was level 50, and fully updated gear and fully trained and buffed. I tried half dozen times and never even got the guy to half his life. I did some googling and it seems that the only way to kill this boss is to take advantage of glitched landscapes or something. I couldn't even get that to work.

But this isn't a one time deal. I ran into this all the time. It seems to be the norm with these class bosses that you have to pull out all the stops; have the right companion out, the right buffs, CC the right guys at the exact right time, dodge AoE, Interrupt, and if you do even ONE thing wrong, you wipe, spend 10k for repairs and try again. There's no reason for these fights to be so much work. It's one thing if it's part of a raid, but it's not. I can't just skip it and move on. I HAVE to complete it or the toon can't progress. If I HAVE to complete it, then it's bat **** stupid to make it so hard that only a small percentage of the people can do it.


Like I said, this is the main reason I quit the game, and it certainly drove others away.
Maybe you should have grouped up, this is still technically an mmo. Just a suggestion, ask around maybe others are having difficulties or find a guild that is to your liking and can help you out. Now you already left from what your saying, but I think you forgot to use the mutli player aspect of things. Each time I had a story fight and I just wanted it to go easy I would get more people.

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doctor_atomic
10.26.2012 , 08:58 AM | #110
*sits back to watch the dramallamas panic and run in circles*
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