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Will the game survive 2013 ?

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Will the game survive 2013 ?

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CosmicKat
10.25.2012 , 05:14 PM | #91
Quote: Originally Posted by waterdaemon View Post

BW may be subject to some criticism, but I for one would not want to see BW, the company responsible for the Baldur’s Gate, KOTOR, Mass Effect, and Dragon Age learn some hard-knocks lesson about the viability of ambitious PC games in the console age. So yeah, some may be disgruntled because they can’t play a pink Ewok while wearing Revan’s pajamas, but no one should really want SWTOR to fail, even if they hate it, even if they gave up playing it long ago. As a PC, RPG, SW, and MMO fan I see a lot on the line here. YMMV.
I think that's where they failed the most. In the age of console games, to compete they made... a console game for the PC?

When movie theaters were in serious trouble from home video competition, did they try to bring in home vide features? Nope. They took what was different and upgraded it with bigger screens, better sound, better theaters etc.

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Minack
10.25.2012 , 05:25 PM | #92
Quote: Originally Posted by SOULCASTER View Post
To keep it simple: NO
This game will not survive 2013, in my opinion. It would need to do a complete 360 to what its doing right now in order to survive, and i just don't see that happening.
Yeah, that's the ticket.

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denpic
10.25.2012 , 06:16 PM | #93
It won't in the apac region
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seatown
10.25.2012 , 06:29 PM | #94
Quote: Originally Posted by Jorelle View Post
SWG bombed because the devs had to make the game "easy"
Actually, if you remember, the devs went easy mode after loosing a ton of subs BECAUSE SWG was bombing. I'm not saying CU and NGE didnt essentially kill the game but lets face it, SWG was already on life support.

As far as will TOR survive 2013, I think it will though if they dont pull a rabbit outa the hat with F2P, development of new content will slow to a trickle. Personally I hope that F2P turns it around cause with all its problems and missing bits that should be in any MMO... I still like the game.

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oakamp
10.25.2012 , 06:50 PM | #95
look at
http://www.torstatus.net/
pve server getting a little better,
pvp server is getting worse,
i don't know it will survive or not,
but it just doesn't deserve 15 per month,
that is for sure.
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maxetius
10.25.2012 , 07:14 PM | #96
They will remove the harsh restrictions over time when they realize people don't like paying money for basic game features, but they will pay out the WAZOO for stupid fluff items or gambling boxes.

They'll learn. In the meantime what comes out 2013? Botwars 2[GW2] was supposed to be the TOR killer as i recall.

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HammersteinSW
10.25.2012 , 11:42 PM | #97
Quote: Originally Posted by seatown View Post
Actually, if you remember, the devs went easy mode after loosing a ton of subs BECAUSE SWG was bombing. I'm not saying CU and NGE didnt essentially kill the game but lets face it, SWG was already on life support.

As far as will TOR survive 2013, I think it will though if they dont pull a rabbit outa the hat with F2P, development of new content will slow to a trickle. Personally I hope that F2P turns it around cause with all its problems and missing bits that should be in any MMO... I still like the game.
Thing is that with SWG they should have built on it's strenghts instead of gutting the whole system. Namely the open world, the interesting classes (creature handler was awesome), the crafting, the housing, the space part. These things were fantastic, if they had added a more interesting questline on top and some regular content updates they would have been fine. Instead they ruined their own game and subs went from dwindling, but with a stable core community, into free fall.

In a way they made the same mistake as Swtor (no wonder Rich Vogel was involved as lead designer with both games, you see his handiwork there) - they tried to make the game too much like WoW instead of trying to create something with it's own identity.

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Ssfbistimg
10.26.2012 , 12:15 AM | #98
Quote: Originally Posted by HammersteinSW View Post
A direct question - what is EA's roadmap for this game ?

I really want to enjoy the class stories and invest the majority of my game time into Swtor. But EA does so little to make me trust in the future of this game. There is no real communication with the playerbase, the Q&A panels only focus on silly stuff like "Can we marry Wookies ?" while I am more concerned if I will still get to enjoy Swtor next year.

I don't want to pour money for Cartel Points and the little game time I have into a game which might already be doomed. The weird f2p decisions (paying for an extra hotbar), the fresh bugs introduced with every patch and the dwindling subscriber numbers often make me wonder if sometime next year they will just close it down because it does not create enough cash to pay for the Star Wars license and the running costs.
my guess is this game will die december 20 2012 just like the rest of the world.... but on a serious note yes it will last till 2013 but I cant guarantee it will see 2014. EA buying bioware was the death of this game. It's not will it die but when. And I'm pretty sure EA will give F2P around 6 months to make revenue and when it fails to bring in any new subscibers they will pull the plug.

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deucexmachina
10.26.2012 , 12:24 AM | #99
Quote: Originally Posted by waterdaemon View Post
EA spoke up loud in clear in July: “Disappointing performance of Star Wars: The Old Republic was offset by powerful performance of Battlefield 3.” “Star Wars is the primary driver for adjusted guidance to a lower number.” “Our diversity allows us to make up for a miss on one franchise (SWTOR) with a hit on another (BF3).” One of the last things EA said to investors during that quarter’s investor call was to give a brief rundown of their F2P strategy. Next report for EA is end of Oct. and there will be nothing new to say other than they are banking on F2P to turn things around. The months of Nov., Dec., and Jan. SWTOR is probably fighting for its life. That’s the roadmap. [note: this is all public info. EA is a public company and I don’t have any insider info!]

BW may be subject to some criticism, but I for one would not want to see BW, the company responsible for the Baldur’s Gate, KOTOR, Mass Effect, and Dragon Age learn some hard-knocks lesson about the viability of ambitious PC games in the console age. So yeah, some may be disgruntled because they can’t play a pink Ewok while wearing Revan’s pajamas, but no one should really want SWTOR to fail, even if they hate it, even if they gave up playing it long ago. As a PC, RPG, SW, and MMO fan I see a lot on the line here. YMMV.
BioWare is a rubber stamp logo now as the founding members gave their notices in April after the EA head ceo called SWTOR a failure in March because it was only in the top 10 and not the top 5 of their money makers. Mind that EA Sports just reskins the old sports game versions with nothing really new ever added.

May was the large layoff, and yes some were just filling in for launch and early support, of employees associated with SWTOR. Shortly after the original BW ideas were run through and EA had to continue from somewhere, like their interns from the EA Sports dev teams (a hunch on the intern part).

June 26 is when 1.4 Allies came out. And so many of the old bugs rolled back in along with the addition of even more nerfs that made no sense. A trend that is continuing to this day.
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LordVilos
10.26.2012 , 12:39 AM | #100
Will the game last? Yes. It will. If you want an example just take a look at a game called City of Heroes it is a horrible game yet it has been around for years on a very similar model to this game to be honest and it is still doing just fine it has a worse population than us but the game is still alive. So will this game survive? Imo my opinion yes it will however just don't expect it to get anymore higher populated.

I mean 30 seconds after logging into the game City of Heroes I was like how is this game still alive? Yet it is. That gamw is a very posdible future of swtor.