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Will the game survive 2013 ?

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Will the game survive 2013 ?

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Arkerus
10.25.2012 , 03:41 PM | #81
Quote: Originally Posted by Glowrod View Post
I don't think they'll make it. The biggest problems I see are:
1) they are SO slow to fix bugs.
2) they cater too much to the elite player. This is the primary reason I finally quit. They design a game that leads you by the nose all over the galaxy on a long series of quests. But they make the quests so *********** hard that you have to either be an elite player to finish it, or group up. If you don't complete the quest, then the game is over. That's not a smart way to design the game and I'm sure they lost a large percentage of subs because of it. I can't tell you how frustrated I was to have my consular at the end of Correlia, the end of my class quests in my sights, just to find the the final boss is over the the top, rediculously hard. I finally logged off and cancelled my account. I can't be alone in that feeling.

(This one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0YsLBlxn7I )
I'm not sure how you got to this conclusion. The 1-50 leveling is, quite honestly, very easy. Some boss fights take a few tries but if you have the gear from previous quests, its not hard. Would it kill you to go back and get some gear or ask someone for advice on the boss fights? This game doesn't cater to the elite. It's without a doubt, one of the most beginner friendly mmos I have ever played. If you want to talk about elite then lets talk about final fantasy 11 or the original Everquest. How about eve? Those games cater to elitists.

You need perspective. Bioware has gone out of their way to make sure every player has a home here. The leveling experience from 1-50 was explicitly designed to be solo'd. They even talk about the 4 types of players they are marketing to in their past interviews.
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Urael
10.25.2012 , 03:45 PM | #82
Quote: Originally Posted by Arkerus View Post
I'm not sure how you got to this conclusion. The 1-50 leveling is, quite honestly, very easy. Some boss fights take a few tries but if you have the gear from previous quests, its not hard. Would it kill you to go back and get some gear or ask someone for advice on the boss fights? This game doesn't cater to the elite. It's without a doubt, one of the most beginner friendly mmos I have ever played. If you want to talk about elite then lets talk about final fantasy 11 or the original Everquest. How about eve? Those games cater to elitists.

You need perspective. Bioware has gone out of their way to make sure every player has a home here. The leveling experience from 1-50 was explicitly designed to be solo'd. They even talk about the 4 types of players they are marketing to in their past interviews.
So much so that it is a face roll for the experienced gamer.

Indeed.

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Arkerus
10.25.2012 , 03:48 PM | #83
Quote: Originally Posted by Urael View Post
So much so that it is a face roll for the experienced gamer.

Indeed.
Let me clarify that. The different types of gamers WITHIN the class of folks that enjoy a themepark base MMO.

Obviously they are not trying to reign in the sandbox crowd or the simulation fans.
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Bojangle
10.25.2012 , 03:56 PM | #84
No the game will die during 2013. All the money put in to this game for 2 years!!!
/sarcasm

The game will be alive and well in 2013.
God why are people so worried and feel the need to ask stuff like this? Is Lord of the Rings still alive? Is Aion? Is Star Trek Online? Is EQ1 and 2? Is Warhammer? Is Age of Conan? (all those games are way lower in subs than ToR) The sub base as of right now is still one of the tops. It is way higher than Tera and likely Rift. Once f2p hits it will get even higher. I have faith the devs will keep pumping out content as well.

ToR will be here for a long time.
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Bojangle
10.25.2012 , 03:58 PM | #85
Quote: Originally Posted by HammersteinSW View Post
Thing is that even in Guild Wars 2 - with it's silly Black Lion chests and keys - which are essentially gambling boxes you can find those from a lucky drop and get the content without spending a dime.

But crippling the user interface and having people pay for access to the most basic features like hotbars is completely wrong. I expected cool armor sets as CP content but having to buy essential features just shows how little EA understands about running an mmo.

You do not gut the basic controls - imagine if Battlefield 3 required a micro transaction to enable the WASD keys.
LotR says hi and doing fine and has even worse limits on what you can do along with UI.
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TerraNovaSWTOR
10.25.2012 , 04:02 PM | #86
Seriously? Yes.

As long as Subscribers and F2P Whales keep supporting George's Share and 1 Server technical support, SWTOR will remain open. Heck, the worst-failed MMO I ever saw (WaR) is still open.

EA would be cutting their own throat by shutting the game down entirely - no more revenue to hold against their horrendous losses. So SWTOR will languish with an estimated 3 devs, 1 community rep and a half-dozen guys in a call center. I doubt the game will see a lot of development unless F2P actually works - which I have severe doubts about.
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_Zhatan_
10.25.2012 , 04:05 PM | #87
Quote: Originally Posted by Bojangle View Post
No the game will die during 2013. All the money put in to this game for 2 years!!!
/sarcasm

The game will be alive and well in 2013.
God why are people so worried and feel the need to ask stuff like this? Is Lord of the Rings still alive? Is Aion? Is Star Trek Online? Is EQ1 and 2? Is Warhammer? Is Age of Conan? (all those games are way lower in subs than ToR) The sub base as of right now is still one of the tops. It is way higher than Tera and likely Rift. Once f2p hits it will get even higher. I have faith the devs will keep pumping out content as well.

ToR will be here for a long time.
So your point this game will go the coma state of the listed above...cool. Very good for a 250+ m$ AAA game...
But you are right, the game will be in life support for the next 5 years and when the license expire the game will too.

This is the 2nd big failure of EA in MMO genre and will follow the same path (aka WAR) milk the remaining players till servers go empty and the invest recovered.
SWG----------------- 8 years played, 7 active accounts at June 2011.
SWTOR------------- 6 months played. BACK ONLY FOR PATCHS .

BW...Something is failing here, don't you think?

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DonosCaan
10.25.2012 , 04:05 PM | #88
Another "the end is near!!" thread...
These guys are like rakhgouls

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Gomla
10.25.2012 , 04:09 PM | #89
Quote: Originally Posted by CosmicKat View Post
The keys should have been taken when he substituted Ewoks for Wookiees.
Don't you be abusing those little Ewoks....

Nothing wrong with Ewoks.

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SOULCASTER
10.25.2012 , 04:51 PM | #90
To keep it simple: NO
This game will not survive 2013, in my opinion. It would need to do a complete 360 to what its doing right now in order to survive, and i just don't see that happening.

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