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10 races that are better than Cathar.

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Thylbanus
10.25.2012 , 09:01 AM | #221
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I bet you're thinking about wookies. They actually CAN speak basic if they have speech defect. There's one or two wookies with that defect in Star Wars canon.
Expanded Universe is not cannon. There is no example of cannon wookies able to speak Galactic.
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Liquidacid
10.25.2012 , 09:06 AM | #222
Quote: Originally Posted by Thylbanus View Post
Expanded Universe is not cannon. There is no example of cannon wookies able to speak Galactic.
of course it's not a cannon... it doesn't shoot cannon balls or anything!

seriously the EU IS canon by verdict of GL and Lucasarts saying it is... granted it's a lower level of canon than the movies from a fans stand point it makes no difference ...
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Thylbanus
10.25.2012 , 02:47 PM | #223
Quote: Originally Posted by Liquidacid View Post
of course it's not a cannon... it doesn't shoot cannon balls or anything!

seriously the EU IS canon by verdict of GL and Lucasarts saying it is... granted it's a lower level of canon than the movies from a fans stand point it makes no difference ...
Papa Lucas never actaully said that EU is canon, as a matter of fact, he said it is its own separate universe. While he does use various aspects of EU in his film, then and only then, do they become canon.
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Liquidacid
10.25.2012 , 09:35 PM | #224
Quote: Originally Posted by Thylbanus View Post
Papa Lucas never actaully said that EU is canon, as a matter of fact, he said it is its own separate universe. While he does use various aspects of EU in his film, then and only then, do they become canon.
no he appointed Leeland Chee to specifically oversee SW canon and approved his canon ranking system which is still used to this day by LA and LL on everything in the SW IP... the difference is anything Lucas himself creates is G-canon , the highest level, and will overwrite anything of any other canon level... meaning for GL himself canon doesn't matter because he can ignore everything and do whatever he wants but every single other write or producer of anything SW has to follow the G,T,C,S canon levels
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Thylbanus
10.26.2012 , 03:01 AM | #225
Quote: Originally Posted by Liquidacid View Post
no he appointed Leeland Chee to specifically oversee SW canon and approved his canon ranking system which is still used to this day by LA and LL on everything in the SW IP... the difference is anything Lucas himself creates is G-canon , the highest level, and will overwrite anything of any other canon level... meaning for GL himself canon doesn't matter because he can ignore everything and do whatever he wants but every single other write or producer of anything SW has to follow the G,T,C,S canon levels
So, exactly what I said. G and L canon is practically the same, C is EU, and S is considered stories of events, but with the story tellers twist to them. Basically, rumor and urban myth. So in effect G and L are a canon unto themselves, C is what we play in (aka another universe separate from G and L). These are Georgie boy's own words:

"I don't read that stuff. I haven't read any of the novels. I don't know anything about that world. That's a different world than my world. But I do try to keep it consistent. The way I do it now is they have a Star Wars Encyclopedia. So if I come up with a name or something else, I look it up and see if it has already been used. When I said [other people] could make their own Star Wars stories, we decided that, like Star Trek, we would have two universes: My universe and then this other one. They try to make their universe as consistent with mine as possible, but obviously they get enthusiastic and want to go off in other directions." - George Lucas, from an interview in Starlog #337

And well S is just tall tales of the SW universe.
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ibervang
10.26.2012 , 06:29 AM | #226
I like the looks of the Voss, and they are already in the game. They might officialy be neutral, but alot/most? of us have seen that isnt true when it comes to all of them
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VicSkimmr
10.26.2012 , 11:07 AM | #227
i just want togruta and kel'dor for republic, weequay and kaleesh for empire
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Liquidacid
10.26.2012 , 12:05 PM | #228
Quote: Originally Posted by Thylbanus View Post
So, exactly what I said. G and L canon is practically the same, C is EU, and S is considered stories of events, but with the story tellers twist to them. Basically, rumor and urban myth. So in effect G and L are a canon unto themselves, C is what we play in (aka another universe separate from G and L). These are Georgie boy's own words:

"I don't read that stuff. I haven't read any of the novels. I don't know anything about that world. That's a different world than my world. But I do try to keep it consistent. The way I do it now is they have a Star Wars Encyclopedia. So if I come up with a name or something else, I look it up and see if it has already been used. When I said [other people] could make their own Star Wars stories, we decided that, like Star Trek, we would have two universes: My universe and then this other one. They try to make their universe as consistent with mine as possible, but obviously they get enthusiastic and want to go off in other directions." - George Lucas, from an interview in Starlog #337

And well S is just tall tales of the SW universe.
there is no such thing as L canon... there is G-canon which is the movies and anything personally made by George, then there is T-canon which is the clone wars series since Lucas signed off on it and wrote some of it, then there is C canon which is all the current EU that is considered full canon, then there is S-canon which are things like the old marvel comics which are considered secondary because they aren't that relevant and are available to be used or ignored as needed by current authors, then there is N-canon like the Infinities comics what if stories which are not canon at all

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Canon

Lucas himself flip flops and makes all kinds of weird statements but has gone as far as to appoint a whole team to watch over and rule on continuity... as far as Lucas is concerned the EU is still the same universe but separate since he can and usually does ignore it when he makes something... as far as you, me and every single other SW fan, writer or producer is concerned there is only one continuity because we have to follow the full canon rules ... so they are only separate if you happen to be George Lucas but since he is retiring and won't be personaly producing/writing any more SW stories even that will cease to matter
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Kilikaa
10.26.2012 , 12:20 PM | #229
Quote: Originally Posted by Thylbanus View Post
Expanded Universe is not cannon. There is no example of cannon wookies able to speak Galactic.
Like it or not, the EU IS official canon. Only the films and Clone Wars tv series are higher levels. As stated by Liquidacidr. So, yes, Wooks can speak Basic if they have some kind of speech defect. There is one example of this in the Thrawn Trilogy. It is canon too. GL also said there can be no Wookie Jedi except Lowbaca, Chewie's nephew. He signed off on that.

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Liquidacid
10.26.2012 , 12:24 PM | #230
Quote: Originally Posted by Kilikaa View Post
Like it or not, the EU IS official canon. Only the films and Clone Wars tv series are higher levels. As stated by Liquidacidr. So, yes, Wooks can speak Basic if they have some kind of speech defect. There is one example of this in the Thrawn Trilogy. It is canon too. GL also said there can be no Wookie Jedi except Lowbaca, Chewie's nephew. He signed off on that.
ahh no I already covered the speech defect... there is ONE wookie in canon (thrawn trilogy) that had it and he still could not speak basic... the speech impediment simply made him speak his native language slower and in such a way that people not fluent in it (like Leia at the time) could understand it better and easier... he was still speaking shyriiwook tho not basic


tho I suppose they could pull some crap so you could get a wookie with basic... like Piggy from the X-wing series who had cybernetics put in to allow him, a Gamorrean, who normally couldn't pronounce basic to be able to speak it fluently... or maybe a miniature translation droid like Lowbacca had
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