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TrakonBazzaak
10.25.2012 , 01:09 PM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by Gomla View Post
What people need to remember is if this game doesn't make EA enough money to be acceptable for them then they will turn off the servers.

By acceptable for them I don't mean "enough to survive" I mean it needs to be making one hell of a profit.

If F2P doesn't bring in the money then it will shut down.

All I will say is don't expect this game to be around for years. And I do enjoy the game, that isn't me "hating". I also know what EA does when something stops making it money (I still miss you Bullfrog ... my dreams for Dungeon Keeper 3 were shattered when they closed you down).
There is absolutely no way EA will sunset the game until the licensing is up.

To licence this game costs in the area of 15 million for ten years according to info we learned from swg.

EA will not re licence the IP after that if they arent making a profit though.

So basically we get to soldier through a game that is barely alive for the next 8 years.

ENJOY!
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Jorelle
10.25.2012 , 01:15 PM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by ZionHalcyon View Post
SWG bombed and it lasted for 8 years.


So yeah, I think this game is safe for the forseeable future.
SWG bombed because the devs had to make the game "easy"

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chuixupu
10.25.2012 , 01:15 PM | #63
I could actually see Lucas Arts snatching it back, since they've already declared all Star Wars games from now on will be done in-studio. SWTOR was the last to be licensed out.

Nobody has to "soldier through" this game - if you're not having fun, don't play it. If it matters to you so much that you're playing an MMO that has more than a million subscribers, you only have one option.
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StillOne
10.25.2012 , 01:33 PM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by HammersteinSW View Post
A direct question - what is EA's roadmap for this game ?

I really want to enjoy the class stories and invest the majority of my game time into Swtor. But EA does so little to make me trust in the future of this game. There is no real communication with the playerbase, the Q&A panels only focus on silly stuff like "Can we marry Wookies ?" while I am more concerned if I will still get to enjoy Swtor next year.

I don't want to pour money for Cartel Points and the little game time I have into a game which might already be doomed. The weird f2p decisions (paying for an extra hotbar), the fresh bugs introduced with every patch and the dwindling subscriber numbers often make me wonder if sometime next year they will just close it down because it does not create enough cash to pay for the Star Wars license and the running costs.
I'm with you on this Hammerstein, and I fear this game won't last through 2013 either. I'd been overly positive about all the changes and up/downs we've all seen. I'm not one to gripe about the little things, but as the little things piled up on top of each other, my opinions have changed. I, like many of us, really hoped this game was going to be amazing. Sadly it's turned into a mess of bugs, stuttering lag, and now this FTP fiasco.
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_Zhatan_
10.25.2012 , 01:35 PM | #65
Just 2 words : WARHAMMER ONLINE.
SWG----------------- 8 years played, 7 active accounts at June 2011.
SWTOR------------- 6 months played. BACK ONLY FOR PATCHS .

BW...Something is failing here, don't you think?

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Urael
10.25.2012 , 01:36 PM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by Jorelle View Post
SWG bombed because the devs had to make the game "easy"
^This.

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Arkerus
10.25.2012 , 01:51 PM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Simple really. You either have faith in something, or you don't. Clearly you do not. Many others do, and will continue to enjoy and play the game for a long long time.

Or were you just trying to crab walk your way into a rant about communications? No game developer communicates sufficiently to please you I am sure.

Someone like you, who constantly complains about a game, should probably find a game you actually enjoy and do not feel compelled to complain about in a gaming forum. Then again, you maybe you complain about every game in every gaming forum. Personally, I don't see the point, but you are free to do so I guess, as long as you stay within the forum rules.
This.

Bonus points for crab walk.
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Urael
10.25.2012 , 01:54 PM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by Arkerus View Post
This.

Bonus points for crab walk.
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Andryah
10.25.2012 , 01:58 PM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by chuixupu View Post
I could actually see Lucas Arts snatching it back, since they've already declared all Star Wars games from now on will be done in-studio. SWTOR was the last to be licensed out.
Considering that LA has basically gutted and dismantled their native studio capabilities in the last few years, I don't see it happening.

Now, what they would likely do is to subcontract studio work to 3rd party studios (which is pretty much what they do today for all their new product development). It's studio virtualization, pretty much like conventional outsourcing.

However, that is essentially what they have done with SWTOR as an IP property....though they did it through a license rather then a straight work performance contract. The difference really is the profit profile and the risk/reward profile. Under the virtual studio subcontract model, LA would take all the risk and wearn all the rewards, whereas in the SWTOR model the risk/reward is much more shared between LA and Bioware. In the end, it would depend on what risks LA wanted to take for what reward potential. Honestly, hey vassilate all over the place on this as a company. In spirit... they want it all... but reality constantly bites them and forces them to constantly change course as a business. They really are not all that successful as a game producer if you look at their history (many many fumbles and missed opportunities over the years). LA is a revolving door for it's management team which is a lot of the problem IMO.
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Urael
10.25.2012 , 02:02 PM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Considering that LA has basically gutted and dismantled their native studio capabilities in the last few years, I don't see it happening.

Now, what they would likely do is to subcontract studio work to 3rd party studios (which is pretty much what they do today for all their new product development). It's studio virtualization, pretty much like conventional outsourcing.

However, that is essentially what they have done with SWTOR as an IP property....though they did it through a license rather then a straight work performance contract. The difference really is the profit profile and the risk/reward profile. Under the virtual studio subcontract model, LA would take all the risk and wearn all the rewards, whereas in the SWTOR model the risk/reward is much more shared between LA and Bioware.
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We've also been told that another sweeping change made by Meegan is that the majority of "external" development of Lucasarts properties is coming to an end, with BioWare's Old Republic MMO to be the last game not developed internally at Lucasarts. That would presumably mean, for example, no more LEGO Star Wars or LEGO Indiana Jones titles after the upcoming LEGO: Clone Wars, as those have all been handled by Traveller's Tales.
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