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Should cartel armor sets be Bound to Legacy: You decide.

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Should cartel armor sets be Bound to Legacy: You decide.

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10.24.2012 , 06:51 PM | #81
Quote: Originally Posted by veyl View Post
They said that about the Wizard thread in beta.

Look what never made it to Live. The paying customers that are still here, matter. (the way the game has been changing should show that) Your opinion of not caring about the state of the game has no value in this thread.
I completely accept that argument.

There is a definite correlation between an insignificant in game class name and a model that is intended to drive repeat sales on an item for revenue generating purposes.

Together we can make this change. Together.

Disclaimer: This post is dripping with sarcasm.
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10.25.2012 , 12:17 AM | #82
It really depends on how much they finally decide to charge for it.
1250 cc which is around 3/4 of my cartel coins, which feels like a few dollars for a single character armour that is level gated isn't going to entice me.l

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10.25.2012 , 07:08 AM | #83
Bound to Legacy or this:

Quote: Originally Posted by LordArtemis View Post
I would instead ask for two things to be added to the game.

1) Add legacy unlock that automatically allows trading bound items between your legacy characters.
2) Add the same unlock to the Cartel store, or at least a single use item that converts a BOE or BOP item to a BOL item.

This would solve the problem and perhaps generate a bit of revenue as well.
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10.25.2012 , 10:38 AM | #84
Quote: Originally Posted by maxetius View Post
I sincerely doubt anything will change, but they need to get rid of the level gates. You can get armor with the same models at near the same level as the 'special' sets. So what's the point of spending cash on em?

About the only plus is looking like the opposite faction, but you have to play through most of the story to get there, and then who cares...
You guys are missing the point, it's adaptive gear... So sure the same model is in the game but that gear is fixed to a gear type so only certain classes can wear it..... With Adaptive gear (which is sold in the cash shop) ANY class can wear it...
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10.25.2012 , 10:59 AM | #85
He's right it doesn't have meaning, Bioware will make more money selling these per character, even if you get 100 pages of support, that will still be the case. You're asking a game company to cut into it's potential profits, on a game where they have vastly underachieved in creating revenue, it's not going to happen.
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10.25.2012 , 11:31 AM | #86
Quote: Originally Posted by Journeyer View Post
I concur. Selfishly, there's lots of things I'd personally love and wish I could get a million angry posters behind. But in all honesty, I'd probably be even happier to simply have a dialogue about design considerations with Bioware reps--even if the conclusion was "therefore we cannot do that."

I fear there's a vicious cycle at work here--in part because BW's forum input from a "why and how we have to make decisions" standpoint is very limited--where we get these posts that are explicitly not interested in any opinion but concurrence "votes" and that only leads to very disappointed people when all those apparent "popular" decisions don't go live.


Therein lies the problem. No, you do not. Not *entirely*.
You see, if 100% of the games players voted that Luke Skywalker should time-travel back into the game, and that the Death Star should be incorporated as a playable planet, and that this needs to be in the game next month...guess what? Butbutbutbut wait!! 100% of the players voted for it!!! ..still a no-go.

All of our well-intentioned demands dont' actually mandate what is possible or plausible for BW. They merely indicate the general will of the players, and Bioware uses it as guidance.
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10.25.2012 , 11:40 AM | #87
Quote: Originally Posted by ripster View Post
But you are acting like BW/EA are infallible and that feedback like this can never have an affect.

That said, I don't think, even though my position is that BoL is better, that anything here would overwhelmingly show the apparent design to have a negative impact on revenue. That is different though then saying such a discussion is futile because the topic relates to business decisions.
Why was the decision made? Because you have up to 12 alts and if you want the same look on more than one then you will be making repeat purchases. They KNOW this even if you think they are incapable or unable to do their jobs.

Do you think for even a second they don't know what the path of least resistance is when they make their decision on these things?

We can't change specific things about the model just because we complain. At some point you have to accept that there's a perfectly valid reason that has been explained in detail here for what they are doing.

Want to see how you can make a difference? Make a thread that doesn't ask them to change their business models, is constructive and has a chance to actually be implemented: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=527437

If you do it well you'll even get a response from Bioware.
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10.25.2012 , 11:46 AM | #88
There is no reason to have them bound to legacy. There should be a price for one that is bound to legacy and can only be gotten through the cc shop. As in you cant buy the thing on the GTN or give to a friend, etc. Further this one should be a one item thing, something that isnt immediately mailed to each of your toons. Thats my thoughts on it. For this game to be profitable and worth the time of allocated resources from EA/BW then it needs to consistently generate income. So for those of you who would rather be nickel and dimed with ftp, i am sorry that these nickels and dimes will add to ones and fives eventually.
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10.25.2012 , 12:04 PM | #89
In before anyone considers the changes to the toolbars and warzones for FTP to be in the same realm of this proposed change. I am very happy they made those changes because it allows them to win the PR battle. That's a great thing and we can already see how people are reacting to that.

Those changes are quality of life and ease of access changes regarding gameplay. This restriction is a revenue generator based on optional purchases for cosmetic purposes. See the difference? I hope so.
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10.25.2012 , 01:23 PM | #90
Quote: Originally Posted by Foxinator View Post
Also why would a republic character want a nihlus mask or an emperors chair?..
It's not bound unless you equip it, so if a Pub character were to unlock those items, simply don't equip it and you should (in theory?) be able to mail it to yourself cross-faction after the waiting period (looks like two days for subscribers) expires.
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