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What's the best way to take down Juggernauts?

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What's the best way to take down Juggernauts?

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Daylooin
10.14.2012 , 08:02 PM | #1
Hey guys, I'm a DPS Vanguard in full Eliminator War Hero (Augmented). And I can easily defeat all the imperial class's in open world PvP and Warzones, but Juggernauts are a real problem. I just can't seem to take them down in 1v1. I've tried AOE, DOT, and pure brute force; nothing seems to work.


Any suggestions/tips on how to take them down?

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TrueNovaZero
10.17.2012 , 03:45 PM | #2
What spec you having troubles with?

First suggestion I have is blindside them with harpoon - prevents them from getting focus from saber throw and leap.
Second suggestion is to kite.

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Royox
10.21.2012 , 03:57 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by TrueNovaZero View Post
What spec you having troubles with?

First suggestion I have is blindside them with harpoon - prevents them from getting focus from saber throw and leap.
Second suggestion is to kite.
This is IMPOSSIBLE and using Harpoon is the WORST thing you can do.

Why?

Because 90% of Juggs are Rage. That means they can jump to you 2 times. So if you use harpoon on them and start to kite they will jump 1 time, and if you keep trying to kite they will jump a 2nd time. Then they will do the "push + saber throw + jump" + Smash+Grip + Crush + Ravage.


What can you do? NOTHING. You can't win a Jugg with all cd's in 1 vs 1. Why? Ask bioware.

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TrueNovaZero
10.22.2012 , 03:36 AM | #4
You should expect rage/focus guardians and jugs to be a bad match for you -- expecting to be able to take on everything is just plain childish. Vigilance and Defense are easier to take on but fighting focus and rage requires a regular and active defense -- which vanguards plain and simply don't have -- and for that fact, neither do commandos.

So again, what spec?

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heechJunzi
10.22.2012 , 09:53 AM | #5
My answer is to kite. So what if they can jump to you twice, you have 2 cc's in cryo and concussion. Use them to build range. And of course, you have knock back.

The game becomes simple. If you'te inside of 4m for more than 50% of your 20s fight, you lose. Otherwise, you win.
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Royox
10.22.2012 , 11:16 AM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by heechJunzi View Post
My answer is to kite. So what if they can jump to you twice, you have 2 cc's in cryo and concussion. Use them to build range. And of course, you have knock back.

The game becomes simple. If you'te inside of 4m for more than 50% of your 20s fight, you lose. Otherwise, you win.
We have 2 cc, they can jump 2 times and they have CRUSH that slows u more every second. There is NO WAY an Assault Vanguard can kite a Juggernaut/Marauder Rage. Only Tactics can with that skill that makes u run 30% more and gives inmunity to slow downs...but it will suck cause Tactics SUCKS at ranged damage (more than assault)

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TrueNovaZero
10.22.2012 , 05:16 PM | #7
Like I said, it's a bad match. Vanguards don't have the amount of defensive cooldowns that juggs would. Rage/Focus spec is just fotm, so don't be too surprised.

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heechJunzi
10.22.2012 , 05:30 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Royox View Post
We have 2 cc, they can jump 2 times and they have CRUSH that slows u more every second. There is NO WAY an Assault Vanguard can kite a Juggernaut/Marauder Rage. Only Tactics can with that skill that makes u run 30% more and gives inmunity to slow downs...but it will suck cause Tactics SUCKS at ranged damage (more than assault)
Well, I play commando, so I can't be sure the assault trees are identical. But as assault commando, not only do we have cc breaker, we have cleanse, and our reactive shield can also remove movement effects.

I still say we are capable of keeping range above 4m for 10s out of 20. (And if they are foolish enough to use their cc breaker on cryo, I get a good 6s to throw out 2-3 advanced med droids = 10-15k healed, while he's sitting in a daze.)
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olemanbourbon
10.23.2012 , 11:30 AM | #9
You have to get at range and kill them quickly. Like pyro/assault, rage/focus has terrible defense and goes down in a hurry.

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CiyatiNOmore
10.24.2012 , 02:55 PM | #10
This game needs to have 60 meter ranged classes and 10 meter mele classes with lightning and such being the only 30 meter abilities. I loved 60 meter ranged weapons in SWG. One of the best things about pvp for ranged classes in that game. All Jedi/empire were overpowered anyways kinda like in this game...
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