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Stupid F2P Restrictions


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Nemmar
10.23.2012 , 02:27 PM | #511
Quote: Originally Posted by MoltenRog View Post
Yeah i know that but you shouldn't have to pay cartel coins to unlock abilities, thats pretty much game breaking.
I cant read the whole thread so i dunno if this has been adressed... but geez talk about dramatizing. Its GAME BREAKING... that you have to lvl until lvl 14 or something like that to get sprint. OMG, its GAME BREAKING! The twinks are gonna get so OP when they realise this.... cmon... get down to earth.

The only thing that for me looks very weird is having to buy a license to equip purple gear. I dont know how exactly that is gonna work, but it sounds very annoying.

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Kendaric
10.23.2012 , 02:51 PM | #512
Quote: Originally Posted by Nemmar View Post
The only thing that for me looks very weird is having to buy a license to equip purple gear. I dont know how exactly that is gonna work, but it sounds very annoying.
It depends on how they handle it...

EQ2 has similiar restriction in place for free players that prevents you from equipping "fabled" or higher quality gear. Buying the ability in their marketplace allows you to select 5 items in your inventory for which the restriction is removed, which means it's basically worthless for someone still leveling there.
My referal link: http://www.swtor.com/r/VwNScj for free stuff including free server transfer & 7 days of subscription

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GratuaCuun
10.23.2012 , 02:51 PM | #513
There's an easy way to deal with these restrictions... pay for the game

That's what I've been doing since I got early access lol never looked back
People who alter or destroy works of art and our cultural heritage for profit or as an exercise of power are barbarians - George Lucas, 1988

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JimG
10.23.2012 , 02:54 PM | #514
Quote: Originally Posted by GratuaCuun View Post
There's an easy way to deal with these restrictions... pay for the game :P
Yep, agreed. Obviously, the f2p players will want everything free, but that would be ridiculous. There HAS to be some benefit to subscribing.

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Chaffery
10.23.2012 , 02:56 PM | #515
Relax, F2P restrictions will be softened. EA still hoping storm MMO market, just give some time.

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OwenHeyes
11.15.2012 , 05:28 PM | #516
I was actually looking forward to being able to try SWTOR out again and see what has changed since I last played but these restrictions are seriously stupid, I don't even want to try a game that is that restricted, free or not. I'd much rather prefer a free to level 20 game that isn't restricted at all(except chat maybe for spamming and mail) at least I'd be able to try the actual GAME the way it is supposed to be and sub then.

Have you even read some of these restrictions? They are absurdly stupid I wouldn't want to pay people to run this game if these are what they decide to entice new players even if I enjoyed the game, I probably would unsub if I was still playing tbh.

Only one crew skill, ridiculous, I want to try the game, one crew skill is useless, that can't be done, how am I supposed to gather to level the crew skill? You may as well take that away completely.

Higher prices on respecs(limiting my class and stopping me from experiencing my class completely, I am not going to sub to try out a different spec) Higher vendor prices making it even harder for me to try my class fully and higher costs to remove mods/augments? WHAT, I already don't have access to 2 crew skills to potentially make currency there, I can only create 2 auctions at once to make money.

You're also reducing xp for f2p players, SO I only have 2 characters slots and there is essentially 8 classes, I'd have to find a class/specialization I like otherwise why would I sub? Doing all this whilst under reduced xp and with higher costs for respecs, I also can't send mail from any of the characters that I will have to inevitably delete to try others so their currency is wasted and they're also gone if I do decide to sub so I'd have to level them again.

There is also limited warzone/operations for f2p so I won't be able to test how each class works in a group situation or in PvP unless I just stop playing for a week or purchase more but that defeats the point of f2p.

Finally there is also f2p guilds, whywhywhywhy, this is just going to separate the community and cause friction between two types of players, I've already read subscribers harassing anyone that has said they're going to try f2p and calling them scrubs for not subbing and saying they won't allow anyone that is f2p into their guilds, very nice idea to create this kind of separation between players.

Sorry for the long post but I was actually looking forward to trying the game again and seeing what has changed but as stated before I don't even want to try a game this way even if it is f2p. You really need to rethink your "f2p" model those kind of restrictions are just plain stupid and people know, whether they think they're fair or not for a trial you're only trying to justify your sub or blindly defending the game and its creators.

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Synxos
11.15.2012 , 05:31 PM | #517
"Sprint at level 1 disabled?"
What a great way to welcome new F2P users....that's going to give them a great impression of the game.

Seriously though, It's like EAware was like "forget about making a good F2P system, let's make the entire system a giant attempt to milk them dry."
There's a difference between encouraging people to subscribe, and what they are doing. New users aren't going to like the blatant nickel and diming being done.

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TheTropheus
11.15.2012 , 05:33 PM | #518
It is stupid to only allow 2 characters to people who actually purchased this game originally...

Now I cannot make a new char because I had like 10 previously.

Seriously 2 character limit? I really dislike you EA, you are cash grappers in every game I have of yours.

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Synxos
11.15.2012 , 05:39 PM | #519
Quote: Originally Posted by Kendaric View Post
It depends on how they handle it...

EQ2 has similiar restriction in place for free players that prevents you from equipping "fabled" or higher quality gear. Buying the ability in their marketplace allows you to select 5 items in your inventory for which the restriction is removed, which means it's basically worthless for someone still leveling there.
There's a difference.......
EQ2 was a great game, amazing, one of my favorite MMOs.....they even had intricate player housing at launch...imagine that.....an 8 year old game with awesome player housing at launch. Player housing is just one example.
EQ2 went F2P after YEARS.

Now this game on the other hand was losing subscriptions left and right. It's just not a great game. The people left will deny it hand and foot, but the million or so people who left, did so for a reason.
This game went F2P in under 1 YEAR.

Do you see the difference? Do you see why it was ok for EQ2 to have some restrictions that this game shouldn't have? Do you understand that even as it is this game has 100000 more restrictions than EQ2 has?
EQ2 never had restrictions that made you walk slower for crying out loud.

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Synxos
11.15.2012 , 05:41 PM | #520
Quote: Originally Posted by Nemmar View Post
I cant read the whole thread so i dunno if this has been adressed... but geez talk about dramatizing. Its GAME BREAKING... that you have to lvl until lvl 14 or something like that to get sprint. OMG, its GAME BREAKING! The twinks are gonna get so OP when they realise this.... cmon... get down to earth.

The only thing that for me looks very weird is having to buy a license to equip purple gear. I dont know how exactly that is gonna work, but it sounds very annoying.
It's not about balance....it's about giving a good first impression to new comers....
making them pay for sprint at level 1 is incredibly dumb.