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Deception tree viable in current game status?

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Deception tree viable in current game status?

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Xethis
10.22.2012 , 08:54 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Dierdrea View Post
I personally have good gear and I always parse about 100 dps pve behind for deception when compared to madness. Could some deception sins post their logs so I can take a look at what their breakdowns are? If dummy please only post 1600+ dps. Thank you.
I used to be about 200-100 dps behind Madness but as I practiced I got Deception to with in 50 dps, 1600-1650 Deception compared to 1650-1700 for Madness. I also consulted several Assassin that had better gear and more experience than me and they all suggested raising crit rating above the 33%-35% that is pretty much standard for the other classes. When I parsed the spec I have been using the most lately for pvp (0-14-28) I was averaging 1700-1800 dps which is even higher than Madness.

I found that when I parsed spec vrs spec with several 3-5min parses I got mixed results. When I parsed a spec after playing it for a day or two I found that not only did I parse 100-150 dps higher but the over all parse felt much more accurate as my rotations were much cleaner.

When I look at the changes in 1.4 there was nothing that stood out that made me feel that Deception was going to get a huge increase in dps. Sure Maul hits harder, but Madness takes advantage of the same talent since it was a tier 1 talent. Yes the execute phase is smoother now for Deception, but it was never really a dps boost since all you were actually gaining was a global on an ability you are going to use anyways. So why is Deception all of a sudden keeping pace with Madness and other dps classes? My theory is Shock, this ability is just scaling better than the rest of the abilities. I remember a time when Madness Assassins put up far better numbers when they took Shock out of their rotation even if they were going to miss out on Unearthed Knowledge. Then when Assassins started putting on Campaign gear and min maxing their mods they found that putting Shock back in the rotation is increasing their dps. Well Shock is one of Deception Assassins main abilities and probably Shock more than any other spec. With Shock scaling so well, its putting Deception back on the map. That is my theory anyways.

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Dierdrea
10.22.2012 , 10:35 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Xethis View Post
I used to be about 200-100 dps behind Madness but as I practiced I got Deception to with in 50 dps, 1600-1650 Deception compared to 1650-1700 for Madness. I also consulted several Assassin that had better gear and more experience than me and they all suggested raising crit rating above the 33%-35% that is pretty much standard for the other classes. When I parsed the spec I have been using the most lately for pvp (0-14-28) I was averaging 1700-1800 dps which is even higher than Madness.

I found that when I parsed spec vrs spec with several 3-5min parses I got mixed results. When I parsed a spec after playing it for a day or two I found that not only did I parse 100-150 dps higher but the over all parse felt much more accurate as my rotations were much cleaner.

When I look at the changes in 1.4 there was nothing that stood out that made me feel that Deception was going to get a huge increase in dps. Sure Maul hits harder, but Madness takes advantage of the same talent since it was a tier 1 talent. Yes the execute phase is smoother now for Deception, but it was never really a dps boost since all you were actually gaining was a global on an ability you are going to use anyways. So why is Deception all of a sudden keeping pace with Madness and other dps classes? My theory is Shock, this ability is just scaling better than the rest of the abilities. I remember a time when Madness Assassins put up far better numbers when they took Shock out of their rotation even if they were going to miss out on Unearthed Knowledge. Then when Assassins started putting on Campaign gear and min maxing their mods they found that putting Shock back in the rotation is increasing their dps. Well Shock is one of Deception Assassins main abilities and probably Shock more than any other spec. With Shock scaling so well, its putting Deception back on the map. That is my theory anyways.
Could you please post some logs with TORparse.com or similar? Thanks.

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Xethis
10.22.2012 , 10:40 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Dierdrea View Post
Could you please post some logs with TORparse.com or similar? Thanks.
I use MoniTOR to show my dps, I really dont know how to post from that data. I went to TORparse but all i see is a white page not sure where to start. As far as MOX I dont have the latest .NetFramwork and for some reason my OS wont update anymore. Too much p orn I guess. Anyways Ill try to figure out how to get data from MoniTOR

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Dierdrea
10.22.2012 , 11:11 PM | #14
It is actually really easy to upload. Just upload straight from the log files created in your folders. The same folder MoX is directed to.