Stun on sorc bubble break must be changed

And people wonder why devs don't "listen to the players". Half the people in this thread are saying that an aoe 3 sec stun buff castable on team-mates with very short cooldown per player is fine (and that focus firing melee deserve it to be shut out of this game).

I assume most of the people posting here aren't running this hybrid build. I used it pre-1.4 for pugging becaues of the root on the KB and added DPS so that i could survive without a coordinated team and stopped running out of force. It severely hinders overall healing in an effort to have more utility through CC and be able to do some DPS as well. But you are not going to be putting up the healing numbers of a pure healing sorc/sage, so it is not going to be ideal for rated teams and will never be used outside of regular warzones. It's a 1v1 and utility build, nothing more.

No one ever said melee classes needed to be shut out (at least I didn't), simply survivable. Guess I can safely say your main is a close range class from this post (and if not "me scusi"). Jump on the Sorc/Sage bandwagon and give the other "srsly why did i spec this" builds a run and then when you get some time spent at being pwnt cause you're a class that which others can pad their numbers then we can talk shop. Until then we will simply forget you posted this and that "everything is working as intended".

@PloGreen
No they really aren't terrible. Full balance Sorcs/Sages can absolutely destroy WZs, by using roots and focus firing from Range. I've seen some amazing Sorcs who spec madness and it isn't even that hard to play. You spam force lightning until you proc Raze, then you spam force lightning some more. And in the under 50s as a Madness spec I do top DPS. Yeah you might not out-dps a smash/forcesweep spammer, but so what, that isn't the point. You can be more effective if you focus priority targets.

Hybrid spec is NOT all you have. You just happen to be everyone's priority target number 1, along with all the other healers. If you roll a healer then you're priority target number 1. I'm priority target number 1, because everyone on my server seems to know me and think that it's a good idea to kill me before all the healers combined (fact!). Which sucks, but that's what happens when you're either good or are fundamental supporting role.

The class didn't get nerfed to the ground. There was a bug that allowed for double proc healing that was adjusted. I was there when you had teams of 3-4 healers that would also be dpsing and wouldn't die. When you could take 4-6 healers with you and guarantee a Voidstar domination. Where you were proc'ing a bug over and over and over again, regardless of it being a bug.

Hybrid bubble is NOT all that you have left, it is just something that caught on and it will be altered. Whether by giving full resolve and working as a stun instead of a mez, the change is coming and we all know it.

Just because a mechanic has been with the game from the start doesn't mean that it won't be changed, keep telling yourself that if it makes you sleep better at night. Predation was with Annihilation spec from the start, it got moved. There's plenty that can be changed/altered that has been with the game 'from the start'.

Give you something else? Okay I'll bite. How about an endurance buff. That would be fair and it'll function very well in giving you extra survivability. Oh and you did get that self-heal correct? The one when fully spec'd into healing can be like what, 6-8k? Instantly huh? Oh and the speed boost that is now every 20sec? Oh and what about root immunity associated with that speed boost?

I would love to have to go above and beyond to kill a Sage/Sorc, but that doesn't mean waiting in stunlock while the Sage/Sorc speeds away, ignoring all roots, LOSes you and when you get to him he has another bubble on him.




@Tha_Govna
So what you're saying is that altaholics are now these FOTM rollers? Really? I still think of them as altaholics. But hey, if it's fun to play a class, maybe you should roll it and level it. I was a Marauder since beta and it is still the most fun and engaging class for me so I can sincerely understand why others are rolling and playings Maras/Sents.

Oh and feeling bad about being denied a spot in Rateds? Dude I went up against teams with 2 DPS Sorcs. that destroyed, absolutely destroyed in Civil War. 1 guy would root while the other spammed force lightning, and then they would alternate and before I got even close I was dead. DPS Sorcs/Sages have so much utility, but no people would rather play healers.

Oh and maybe you should consider switching guilds if your fellow members are so elitist. I'm lucky to come from a very inclusive community that spans over 10+ online games, 10+ years in existence, where we recruit the player NOT THE TOON. Maybe you should find a good group of people to hang out with when you get blacklisted from anything because you're a melee or a ranged or not a specific dps. I remember the days when Marauders weren't allowed to go raiding with some guilds, not mine. I was top dps for my guild and no one ever had a problem with that. But there were people who did not allow Maras or any melees for that matter into raids. That's not a group of people that I would like to be playing with.

The problem isn't about playing any build you want, the problem is that the bubble is not generating any resolve and stunning for 3secs, stunlocking the entire battlefield. Again the class isn't designed for this. I have yet to hear of a developer responding about it and saying "functions as intended". They have said that they are closely monitoring the FOTM Rage/Focus spec and according to them it is functioning as intended, but may be changed if they feel that it is too much.

If your team says that you're a gimp heals, go find another team. Are you that guy that is willing to do anything to hang out with the cool kids? I don't think you are.

Rated teams that run 2 healers 9/10 times have at least one hybrid healer. It is SUPER useful in rated play.

Get rid of 6k AOE smashes.
Get rid of 4sec 99% damage reduction I win button.
Get rid of vanguard burst.
get rid of hybrid jugg tank control specialists
OR
Give me burst heals in the heal tree and burst dps in the dps trees as a sage/sorce
OR
Deal with the stunfest, cause I'm gonna keep bubbling everyone on my team nonstop.
I'm gonna keep chain casting extended weaken minds on everyone on the enemy team specced to slow you down
I'm gonna keep healing with my below average mediocre heals.
I'm gonna bubble stun,slow,force wave root all you melee monsters and basically make you cry now that you can't kill me in 1.5 seconds.
Enjoy.

Okay? The moment you get a good Madness/Balance spec Sorc/Assassin on you, you're still gonna die. The dynamic is shifting to medium to long range classes because of this and so new FOTM is in the works. I guess this is what makes SWTOR dynamic.

It doesn't matter what I play - up to 8 3-second, low resolve hitting, aoe stuns every 20 seconds is DUMB. There is no "but.. ". Regular stuns are 4 seconds and none of them heal for up to 4k nor are they aoe. Devs conceded there's the perception of too much cc in this game. Ask any ex-player: do you think there's too much cc in swtor pvp? 8 out of 10 will say "**** yeah!". This one move is one for the record books. AOE mezzes on short cooldowns are bad but this is much much worse.

@AsiriusNazriel

Dude srsly, speed off? immune to root but not to stun during this effect. Any good player determined to kill a Sorc/Sage will do so if they pay enough attention and realize "oh hey he negated my root but is a squishy running away and I have a CC up lets pop that and "GET HIM"". Lol yeah in Rated we can be viable DPS with a guard or another madness sorc in the grp focusing the same target. Try that mess 1v1 on any other class and see what happens. You will get Rick Rolled then trolled for being bad cause your DPS is gimp no matter your skill. I still rather be a supporting player and help my team through to a victory. And yeah go full heals and see where that gets you without guard swaps and secondary heals on you. Sorc/Sage period is focus, not cause your good; Its cause we are the target for rage building only for the next teammate to eat the rage they built up. Don't get me wrong I love madness and yes in reggie PvP it is F***ing awesome to those that know how to play it (not much skill required to DPS but lots to survive a determined assailant), as this was my only other build since 1.2 as a Sorc/Sage.

I wasn't denied spots but people I know were (not of my guild). I am always welcome in guild rated PvP as I am a skilled (not saying I am amazing or the best because someone will always best you) player whether on my Sorc / Mara / PTech / OP / Sniper / Sage / Jugg (yes they are all 50 and geared). I just am simply saying that I can attest to seeing all the FoTM's and yeah I have a few toons that are (though I use them mostly in PvE as my guild needs fillers for PvE secondary grps). I just feel that there is no major issue to the bubble or the amount of resolve it provides, simply that the resolve mechanic in general is a bit broken.

Look,, I went to this build out of nesccestiy. They took the Resurgence proc off Dark Infusion that lowered the cast time of it. Now that Heal is worthless in a WZ. It takes 3 sec to cast it. ARE U KIDDING ME! So I had to go for some crazy ***** hybrid just to be viable in a WZ.

What do you gys want here.

Ok no more stuns, Weak heals that take forever and a day to cast, where even a 2yr old can interupt them. Light armor and our heals are very force heavy.

What do you propose we get in retrun for all this "adjustment". Even op heals get medium armor and stealth. Or do you really just want to go back to your free kills. Let me tell you, it sux big time. W/O this bubble Im screwed. DPS pick me up and kill me at will. I try to run. Im stun locked and rooted. I try to heal through it, I get interuped because even my quickest heal is a 1.5 sec cast time.

The only thing I can see changing is making backlash a Mezz breaking on damage, and if you take the effect off prematurley it doesnt break.

I have been playing this character for almost 9 months and just now Im even considered viable in a Ranked Team. Crazy thing is.. Almost nothing has changed from my rotations to my evasion skills. All of the sudden I have a new ability that allows me to live through your onlsought.

You complain about 3 sage/sorcs stunlocking.. What about 3 Mauraders that take turns rooting and stunlocking targets one by one untill they have foucused the whole team to respawn. Eveyone just says. Oh good rotatiions gys. This makes me sic.

So yea Ill enjoy it while it lasts. until you all QQ enough and the dev "fix" it. Then you can go back to killing me at will with your first rotation.
???? Dont you think its a bit odd that 1 healer and 7 DPS make the best ranked team.