Stun on sorc bubble break must be changed

Wasn't trying to be *itchy, just clairfying what has been stated. And not siding with anyone as I play 4 AC's at 50 and one is a sage with bubble blind, as it is the only way to spec in the current meta game.

If they just clarified things for us we could end this thread. A novel idea I know, but I haven't seen a dev response in months on these pvp forums except for the recent one in the jugg-smash thread.

BW could have just been lazy and not wanted to change the coding to increase the resolve gained. Or they truly don't want the bubble blinds filling resolve that fast, and that is why they specifically avoid calling it anything but a stun. A grey area if you will. Until BW comes out and explains this to us, I stand behind everything I say.

edit: Remember people avoided spec'ing into Backlash prior to 1.4 in team environments. No one was spec'ing it. Ranked teams didn't want that talent filling people's resolve randomly before 1.4. Now, everyone takes it...yet it still gives the same amount of resolve prior to 1.4 when everyone screamed at you to put those 2 pts somewhere else. Just maybe they wanted to give us a reason to spend those pts. Who knows.

I love this skill and the whining in this thread makes me smile. :-) Change it to a mez if you want but this is the best counter to all the smashers out there.

I will give up my stun bubble if maras and jugs give up smash.

+1...

Yeah hands down this is the most annoying thing for me in a warzone. Do I think it needs to be changed, jurys out on that but when I duel my healer buddy he just can't stop laughing at me.

They shouldn't have changed it so it doesn't break on damage. Maybe a happy medium would be so it breaks after say 2k or something. Increasing the resolve would ruin the ability.

That being said, I agree that it is a powerful ability, however, there are some things that I don't think people take into account.

A) I think most players have not bothered trying to work around the ability. The fact is every class in the game has a ranged attack and the ability can be avoided be breaking the bubble from range. This affects some classes harder than others like Marauders and Juggs for instance. Are they in a really bad spot right now? It doesn't seem so to me.

B) There are counters. Actually, Vengance Jugg with CC immunity is a great counter to a bubble spec sorc. The other day I noticed I got hit by smash for over 6600 while I was wearing full war hero. So there are counters out there but people forgo them becuase they have even more powerful specs and in general people like to look at the big pretty numbers rather than what gets the job done.

C) People place far too much emphasis on numbers as a measure of skill and performance then cry when they get beat. This leads to my next point, in that the sage/sorc has to sacrifice something to get the ability. It is actually pretty high in the lighting tree, so they either have to go hybrid dps, hybrid heals or full lighting. The player will lose something either in dps or heals unless they play full lighting, which isn't great for WZ pvp due to lack of mobility.

D) My last point is that the class doesn't stack well due to the debuff. It isn't like Rage spec warriors or VG/PT dps where you can stack several and completely decimate.

So to sum up:
A) There are ways to work around it.
B) There are counter classes and specs.
C) The sorc/sage is likely losing out on dps or healing to get the ability.
D) The class doesn't stack every well.



I will agree that it is powerful but every class in the game has something that makes them powerful. Honestly in rated I see very few sorc/sages still and I only know of one that plays a bubble spec.

Welcome to StunWars beta.

I didn't even know there was a stun on sorc bubble break, then I realized I'm ranged dps is why.

There are a couple of premades on my server running with 2 sorcs who keep everyone bubbled. You get near them, they cancel the buff, stunning you and any nearby teammates. Since it's a hard stun and it only adds half the normal amount of resolve, they're having a lot of success chain-stunning multiple people and focusing them down one at a time. It's an old-school stunlock gibfest, but far more effective than ever before because it's AoE and resolve isn't an issue.

Resolve gain should be commensurate with a hard stun and canceling the buff shouldn't trigger it.

Playing with and against bubble spec sorc/sages, and trying one for myself, I will chime in here. I do think the resolve gain is just flat to low. As far as canceling the bubble to get the effect I agree with Hairy, L2P, people have been doing that WAY before they made it a hard stun.