What About Sub Paying Players?

You are wrong on this. U will get every month cartel points for being subt. it will just take longer then people who pay. But in the end u will get those items to. If u can not wait and wand them asap. then u pay.

And therein lies the problem. This is a last ditch effort on the part of a greedy corporation (is greedy corporation a redundant word pairing?) to increase revenue because they made massive mistakes early on and are below thier desired bottom line. My problem is that this is not an effort to improve gameplay or create a good product. This is EA trying to squeeze every penny they can from a loyal playerbase.

And therein lies the problem. This is a last ditch effort on the part of a greedy corporation (is greedy corporation a redundant word pairing?) to increase revenue because they made massive mistakes early on and are below their desired bottom line. My problem is that this is not an effort to improve gameplay or create a good product. This is EA trying to squeeze every penny they can from a loyal playerbase.

And therein lies the problem. This is a last ditch effort on the part of a greedy corporation (is greedy corporation a redundant word pairing?) to increase revenue because they made massive mistakes early on and are below thier desired bottom line. My problem is that this is not an effort to improve gameplay or create a good product. This is EA trying to squeeze every penny they can from a loyal playerbase.

Pay Per View? At least the SWTOR subscription includes all the PPV channels that F2P will have to pay extra for. In the case of flashpoints, warzones & operations channels, it's definitely freeview → PPV for F2P.

Ya. I asked Blizzard for the WoW open world mounted combat option and they told me I had to subscribe to LotRO's Rohan expansion to get it. Not all options are available from all manufacturers. Your mileage may vary.

On the other hand, my take is that EA is simply falling in line with where the industry is headed without sacrificing their original model. They are merely offering added fluff options for their loyal playerbase. They aren't squeezing anyone.

As a subscriber, the gameplay mechanics do not change for you. That's the key. As for the fluff... look, there are already people who have access to things that others do not. Don't have a security key, you don't have access to items on that vendor or the convenient cargo hold access. Don't have DDE, or CE? Well, there are items specifically set aside for those people... because they paid more! What's the difference?

It's simple. As a photographer, I sell pictures. I will sell anyone a picture for a set price. If you want a frame, I will charge you more. The picture (the true product) is the same, but the frame is a nice touch to enhance the experience for some people, but not all.

Shouldn't we automatically receive EVERYTHING there is in the Cartel Shop period? Or are we going to be expected to pay real money for extra coins so we can get those sweet extras thereby causing us to pay more than our subscription fee.


Necessary Edit: I would like to state that I do not think I should get everything in the Cartel Shop with no effort, I will happily grind for days to acquire an item or perk, however as a subscription paying player I do not feel I should have to invest 1 red cent more than the current sub fees to acquire said items.

i seriously do not understand what u are talking about. U will get more then a f2p player. U get every month FREE cartel coins. and everything stays the same like it is now. If u choose to go fp2 u should not qq. pay for extra or sub or leave the game.

If u are speacking about thuff that they let out of the game and put it in now to be bought with cartel coins. that is a different discustion ofc. But in the end what does it madder? just save up youre montly coins and u can buy what u want without paying extra.

Oh, and just to finish the point... sitting and staring at my picture will not earn you a frame. Just as playing the game will not earn you items that are meant to paid for to bring more money to support the game.