Stupid F2P Restrictions

I could see this happening.

But I don't really think so. Someone who first starts isn't going to have the same expectations as someone who's very familiar with the game. Let's compare this to my first toon ever way back when.

There was no sprint until Level 14. I walked everywhere. I read on the forums that sprint would be unlocked and I looked forward to it. Got to Tatooine and I didn't have enough $$ for the speeder right away so I shlepped around until I could afford it. I really really wanted purple items, but I was leveling pretty fast and so it didn't seem worth it to spend the little credits I had on something that would be replaced in a few hours. So I was in greens/blues most of time anyway.

Now when I compare this to my latest leveling experience, I had lots of legacy perks, sprint from the get-go, a grade 3 speeder at level 10, lots of money from my other level 50s, a whole set of crafted gear, leveling was a breeze. By comparison, my first toon could be considered a grind. But it seemed totally fair to me at the time.

Time will tell what happens with F2P, but I don't think the restrictions are so much different from my first gameplay experience in TOR. And that if I were trying F2P to see if it was worth a sub, I'd probably say "Yeah this is fun let's give them $$."

Just my $0.02.

This is the point of F2P. If you want the features you pay for them. It's incentive based.

Saying that most people will not do it is illogical. You can remove yourself from this discussion if you can't make a valid point without heavy use of made up facts, made up statistics, and hyperbole.

Look I get it. The people complaining are upset that they will lose most of the stuff they have no when the game goes free to play. If you (informal plural) were planning on dropping your sub and still having everything you could have today I don't feel sorry for you.

I am not arguing the profitability or not of F2P. I just don't see why one would pay MORE for something than they had too.

If you want to waste your money, that is your right. It's a brilliant if you think about it. Doing practically nothing and getting people to pay you for it.

Reminds me of "Stone Soup".

But you see, you stuck with it, I stuck with it, but about 70% of the people that went through it with us did NOT stick with it. By going BACK to that model with the people they are now trying to entice, I'm pretty sure it's safe to bet that at least 70% of THOSE NEW people will not stick with it either. And that's very concerning for the future of the game.

Entertainment is a different medium from physical goods. Think of it like this. I don't drink, smoke, or have any other vices that I spend money on. All of those that I listed are the same as the virtual services because they have a finite ending. You pay for a 6 pack, and after it's gone and you no longer feel the effects of it that money and the item are both gone. This is the same thing thing though the things that I 'purchase' here will last much longer.

I mean its not like what your saying is crazy. Value is relative after all, and to you it seems silly to (forgive me if this is speaking for you, correct me if I am wrong), say, pay for a 10 percent increase in running speed with real money because it doesn't seem that valuable to you. Especially if you could just play the game and have other ways to get it and save your cash.

And on this point I would like to say this is EXACTLY why most items in the cash shop should be available in the game in some form...so that players like this gentlemen above can acquire the items if he desires them without having to pay cash for them. To not do so is really unfair to those that do not care to spend actual cash, other than a sub IMO.

I rather let the free to players have theses restrictions then alter the game to Pay 2 win. If they don't like it, purchase an account and sub. So if people whine about the restrictions then go play another F2P MMO. I hear Hello Kitty Online is looking for people.

Except that you still get Sprint at Level 14, which means halfway through your second planet (Coruscant/Dromund Kaas), and not after the 'first couple of planets' (or Tatooine). Except that no-where in the F2P page it says you can't learn Speeder Piloting, or that you can't buy speeders. Also: Why would you purchase purples from the GTN if you know you can't equip them? And then: You are NOT undergeared when you're not in purples. I am currently levelling a Powertech, and I rely solely on quest rewards for my equipment. No flashpoints, no PvP, no crafting. All I use is the equipment I find or am given, or can purchase via planetary commendations (which, as far as I can make out, perfectly doable with F2P). I'm level 40 atm (between Hoth and Belsavis), and I haven't died once.

Please, I get that some of you think the F2P option is too restrictive. But if you want to show examples, making up stuff or exaggerating things doesn't help.

@Galba...again..Lotro gives you the WHOLE game for free. You're really not grasping that are you?

Well said...

@Coldin & LordArtemis..

lol..well said. I also fit into this bracket *shamed* hehe

@urael...

Most of things I buy in stores are 'not' freely available in grind, or as LordArtemis said, require untold grind to obtain. I for one would rather just pay a fiver for my time. and there are more people like that than you realise. Again, the sub cost is most likely not the issue. It's the content for that cost that has driven people away.

@Galba...

That kind of attitude will kill the game. I will be free to play, if the game is worth it, and interesting things in the store, I can bet I will spend more cash on this game than you...but please...lose the 'I'm an elitist sub attitude'....doesn't help anyone.

@tim...well said.

My god Tim (if you allow me to call you Tim) I think you and I agree on this point. It has happened, folks..the sky has fallen