Stupid F2P Restrictions

The advertising is a "form of payment" to the user also IF the user does not want to see advertising. In fact, many games that use this model bank on that so they can get the users of these products to pay a fee to get rid of the adds. There is some form of payment. For you, you don't mind seeing the adds, for others it may be a problem. There are no free games.

I have "changed no tune" and didn't really personally attack you? Interesting you feel the need to do so. What you illustrated is the "I'll take my ball and go home" form of "winning" an arguement (where there was none to begin with in this case). Should I have said: "U mad bro"?

EQ2's entire game is open for free. The only bad thing about it was the fact that you for 2.50$ you'd have to buy 5 gear/master spell unlocks that you needed for better gear.

LOTRO left a bad taste in my mouth as soon as I got bored grinding wolf kills for an hour.

So this is very interesting , I take it all the people who post here are subbed am I correct ? So they will get some free cartel coins. Also people who used to play ( they need to sub re-sub before F2P hits ) will get some too. So are we talking about new customers ? If not then you will have some cartel coins guys to spend on your sprint level 1 and for the use of purple items ( depending on he price ) for free , so I am really shocked at the amount of complaints. If it's about new customers then they aren't going to know what a purple item is even and if they feel like they can't win that sprint to the finish then they will purchase the sprint level 1. I didn't even buy a speeder on about 4 characters until month 5 or so , as I thought saving up my money for rank 2 for some characters was a better option , that was until I saw Voss .

So overall until we know the price of these WZ / FP passes , purple item restriction lifts , sprint level 1 etc etc then You need not worry. One large worry is maybe some of the old subbed players who have left will get a shock if they don't sub as in right now or the next week or so , because they won't get anything if they don't.

Cheers,

BadOrb.

I don't approve of charging players to equip gear they earned.

And if LOTRO left a bad taste in your mouth for grinding wolf kills for an hour.....how can you like EQ2 then? You really don't need to grind wolves if you don't want to. If it was to earn deeds for points, there's better ways of accomplishing that, usually by completing quests and earning reputation.

I'm shock that the point of Free to Play is for free players to spend money.

If people don't want restrictions either subscribe monthly or play another MMO.

Yes. Everyone able to post on the forums are subscribers, or at least haven't let their current subscription lapse yet.

While you say not to worry, I feel it's better to make a fuss about matters beforehand. We know enough details to make basic informed opinions on certain aspects of their F2P model, and so that's what we are commenting on. For myself, it really doesn't matter how much these weekly passes cost, or how much purple gear unlocks cost, I still think they are bad ideas.

I think it would be prudent to have the 5 field revives on a regenerating cooldown like 24 hours or a week, but otherwise this all seems pretty reasonable considering you're getting so much AAA quality content for absolutely nothing.

this thread makes me realize the saying "beggars cant be choosers" obviously didnt have the internet!!!

I am completely baffled by those who keep harping on the notion that subscribers will be forced to buy things from the Cartel shop. There is nothing there for subscribers to purchase except vanity items (adaptive gear, pets, mounts, etc.). Subscribers get Cartel coins for every month they are subscribed. Based on the current FAQ, a subscriber can opt to use those coins to purchase some things that until now could only be purchased for credits (though they can still be purchased with credits), which will be a bit of a boon for those of us who are altaholics and always broke in-game. A subscriber could certainly be so bent on getting a specific armor set or something that s/he would also purchase more Cartel coins, but that is a choice. That nifty looking mount/armor/pet is most certainly not required to play the game to it's fullest.

And they are giving subscribers a way to get these things without paying more as long as they are willing to be a little bit patient and save the Cartel coins included with their subscription. This is certainly no more onerous than waiting to get the social level required to wear some of the social gear.

Of course EA/BW want people to pay for things. It's a business, and they can't pay people to develop the content that folks keep screaming for if the franchise has no income. Of course they don't want the f2p players to actually not pay anything. This is a business model, not a charity model. As a subscriber, I don't want to pay for f2p folks to get all the perks I have and have them pay nothing.

I honestly do not understand all the QQ about the f2p??
Of course its very limited and sucks, thats the idea.....to entice players to sub and get the full game in its glory.

Forgive me if I am mistaken, but it seems a lot of the complaining is players who want to go free, but still reap the benifits of full subscription access??

If you want a game you can play around with, and check some things out a few days a week, f2p is probably great for that.......If you want a full game that you can do whatever you want, as many times as you want a week, then shell out the 15bucks and enjoy