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F2P - 3 Warzones Per Week LOL

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F2P - 3 Warzones Per Week LOL

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noodlehaus
10.16.2012 , 11:04 PM | #51
i'm more curious about the effect this will have on those staying subscribed just for PvP.

won't this lessen the number of people queueing up for WZs (due to ineligibility/capped limits), leading to longer queue times?

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Alec_Fortescue
10.16.2012 , 11:17 PM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by Kromagg View Post
I am a subscriber, but i don't think that's fair. They really should raise the limit to like 15 per week, not 3. I understand that you have to purchase unlimited with cartel coins, but still that's not a way to get F2P players interested in playing warzones.

That is going to make it almost impossible to gain commedations for gear. I hope they reconsider that, not saying they have to make it a high number, but you would think you would want them to experience it frequently to decide if they want to unlock it. 3 Per week is lame if you ask me even for a F2P player.
Problem?

Imo f2p should not hace access to class stories Past act 1. Only miscellaneous quests later on. Story is, afterall, the most important, expensive aspect of TOR most subscribers decided to buy the game for!

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MayorOfAH
10.16.2012 , 11:22 PM | #53
There should be no restriction for F2P to do anything. Do BW not understand the F2P model at all? All they did with this was extend the free trial a bit its still a subscription game really.
With F2P you only should be paying for stuff like xp boosts maybe a boost to make mobs drop more credits and of course visual changes to your armour hair make up piercings whatever lol. With this "F"2P theyre launching at the min its absolutely not going to bring anyone back into the game for an extended period at all at best it may coax a few new subs who may or may not stick it out. A cynic would say this is just EA/BW/Whoever trying to squeeze a few more dollars out of the game without thinking about its long term survival as an MMO cause there is no way with this model that the game is going to survive
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iimagiicii
10.16.2012 , 11:27 PM | #54
3 a week is good for me, lucky they get that for FREE! SWTOR isn't F2P, it has a F2P option... tiny difference.

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MayorOfAH
10.16.2012 , 11:27 PM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by Arkerus View Post
Um...sorry to rain on your parade...but you already hit the point. They cannot experience the full game unless they pay for a pass or subscribe.

That's how a "free" model works. You monetize certain aspects after giving the player a sample. They aren't going to open WZs on an unlimited basis for F2P accounts. That defeats the entire purpose of the free to play strategy.

Free to sample. Buy to continue. If you give them, say 15 WZs a week, there is no incentive to buy. Now for someone who only wants to log on one or twice a week and play a single WZ (or two) then its perfect.
Absolutely wrong. What you just described is a free trial not a F2P game, a free2play game is just that- Free 2 Play. With money being made on superficial things like skins and then xp/cash boosts etc. I suppose that is too much of a risk for them to take though as really I cant imagine there are enough things to purchase to make that viable. A better approach to this would be to put more money into getting things like the infamous cloak down ingame and then charging for it, then adding more things like purchasable haircuts emotes armour skins speeders and whatever other creative stuff that can be thought up. Instead they are extending the free trial in an attempt to bring new people in and pretending its a free to play game
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GalacticKegger
10.16.2012 , 11:36 PM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by MayorOfAH View Post
Absolutely wrong. What you just described is a free trial not a F2P game, a free2play game is just that- Free 2 Play. With money being made on superficial things like skins and then xp/cash boosts etc. I suppose that is too much of a risk for them to take though as really I cant imagine there are enough things to purchase to make that viable. A better approach to this would be to put more money into getting things like the infamous cloak down ingame and then charging for it, then adding more things like purchasable haircuts emotes armour skins speeders and whatever other creative stuff that can be thought up. Instead they are extending the free trial in an attempt to bring new people in and pretending its a free to play game
Were this a Facebook game I could see it. But it isn't. Not even close. Giving away free and unfettered access to the entire game's content while expecting Cartel coin shop purchases to provide sustainable ROI is as unreasonable as a pub giving away their entire food & beverage menu ... then expecting to make their money back from juke boxes and face painting.
Can we please just have our pre-KotFE SWTOR MMORPG back?

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MayorOfAH
10.16.2012 , 11:39 PM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
Were this a Facebook game I could see it. But it isn't. Not even close. Giving away free and unfettered access to the entire game's content while expecting Cartel coin shop purchases to provide sustainable ROI is as unreasonable as a pub giving away their entire food & beverage menu ... then expecting to make their money back from juke boxes and face painting.
LoL seems to manage? Or is SWTOR not strong enough of a game to be able to count on that many people buying that much face paint while playing it?
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GalacticKegger
10.16.2012 , 11:53 PM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by MayorOfAH View Post
LoL seems to manage? Or is SWTOR not strong enough of a game to be able to count on that many people buying that much face paint while playing it?
Fortunately SWTOR is a strong enough entity that it doesn't have to rely on face paint promotions. Though I'd easily pay $5.00 per toon for STO-level character customization. But I digress.

In TOR's case, F2P is middle ground between Free Trial and full subscription. A subscription migration path if you will. Free trial players who like it but want to see more than level 15 (as well as the ability to trade with players among other things) can go the F2P route for a larger sample. If they like it enough after seeing how much more of the game there is than F2P provides, then the process is in place to help them consider subbing. If they don't like it, no harm no foul. If they do like it, then paying 4 bits (50¢) a day for an unlimited access subscription is just a few mouse clicks away.

Pretty savvy actually.
Can we please just have our pre-KotFE SWTOR MMORPG back?

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Halacs
10.16.2012 , 11:58 PM | #59
Uhh, it's free. Their needs to be horrendous restrictions. How can someone who is not paying a cent complain about what they are getting for free?
Proper Dual spec please.
Free flying space combat
Cross server PVP, OP's, & FP's
Fix Ability Delay/misfire

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Halacs
10.17.2012 , 12:07 AM | #60
People not paying anything to play do not get to complain about what's givin to them. What more? Open up the O'l wallet.

Complaining about something that is free is just amazing.
Proper Dual spec please.
Free flying space combat
Cross server PVP, OP's, & FP's
Fix Ability Delay/misfire