Please Completely REMOVE PvP from SWTOR

What kind of world would it be if repuplic cant attack sith ?? It just doesn´t make sense. Now, i dont pvp. I´ve tried lowlevel pvp 1 time and it didn´t apeal to be. I probably should have given it a chance but i didn´t. Still i would never suggest to remove pvp from swtor. The changes made for "pvp reasons" are stupid and not asked for by the pvp comunity. Just adapt.

"i shouldn´t have to adapt because of pvp changes"

the changes aren´t pvp changes. It´s just changes. They happen in all types of mmo´s. Even without pvp BW would still have to balance classes because of pve crying over some class does more dps that some other class. Some tanks are more viable than other tanks.

The Republic and The Imperials are at war. PvP makes sense. World pvp makes sense. I hate world pvp because of the stupid highlevels on lowlv quest areas seem to think it´s fun to kill lowbies who doesn´t have a chance to fight back. That´s the reason i dont like pvp servers. But it would make more sense to remove pve servers than to remove pvp.

As a guy who enjoys both sides of the game (still not really sure where I want to go with RP... but that's a different story), I read 10 pages of this thread..... Too much stuff I want to quote and disprove, on both sides.....

PvP is just as integral a part of the game as PvE. May I remind you they got 4 maps at the same time the PvE side got 3 ops, which is really all there is worth doing on the PvE side. PvPers QQ because the last patch notes doomed their class, or the next patch will ruin their class.... they get their fix and find new things to QQ about. PvEers complain and cry about FPs or Ops being to hard, they get their fix, then complain and cry that the content is too easy, and it needs to be more difficult. People spend millions on both sides trying to get BiS gear and augments. You want to try watching a vid on YouTube, "memorizing the dance steps", and executing them properly in your awesome WH gear? Go ahead, Ill sit back and watch you fail. You want to go into PvP with Columi/Rakata because you downed HM Soa once? Go ahead, Ill sit back and watch you fail. 10 meter stuns now? If you were stunning in PvE, you're doing it wrong, and now its more of a defensive tactic in PvP than an offensive one (I'm gonna get flamed for that one, oh boy ). Skill tree changes affect EVERYONE not just PvEers, and how is the merc change of venting 8 heat every 6 seconds a PvP change? I'm pretty sure the heat management problems were complained about by the PvEers. This is not just an RPG, it is an MMORPG. A massive multiplayer online game needs to bring a competitive edge for the players, that is PvP. A massive multiplayer online game needs to bring a cooperative edge for the players, that is PvE. A massive multiplayer online game needs to bring truly deep immersion into the story, that is RP. None of these elements can be removed from the game while trying to keep the game alive.

EDIT: I realize that no one (that I read) voted to get rid of RP, I'm just throwing it in there because it is also a core value of MMO's that cannot be removed
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AHA! Why? Why do we need PvP? We don't. We don't need it. The PvP community has ruined... and I mean RUINED every MMO out there. The MMO space is littered with the carcases of games that have tried in the past.

Look, BioWare has found a winning formula with STORY, RP, Progression, Immersion. They have sold MILLIONS of copies of KOTOR and Mass Effect (1-3). None of those games had PvP and they were HUGE successes. That's why they go the license from LA in the first place.

Why they decided to deviate from that winning formula is beyond me. LOL. Look at their other games... all successes. Look at SWTOR... a colossal failure. They tried to do too much. The scope of the game is ridiculous. The people that spend all day every day in four tiny little war zones are better off playing XBOX Live. They represent a tiny minority of the community but they ruin the game for everyone. Good riddance I say. Go play WoW or MW3 or COD3 or HALO or whatever.

I wish BW would have the nerve to create something distinctive that people would actually want to play.

Post all you want. PvP is here to stay. There's not much else to do post 50. I'd say the OP just isn't good at it. Such a pity.

Nevermind the fact that those were SINGLE PLAYER games, not MMOs. See the key difference? No obviously you do not.

There is also a reason why games like Unreal Tournament were so popular too. They had no PvE, and they were HUGE successes!

And if you really think that the PvP community is just a tiny minority, then you really need to get your head out of the sand, because you are dead wrong.

Counter Strike. Still one of the most popular online games around. All PvP. All the time. Headshot! Unbelievable! Ludicrous Kill!

See? PvP only. Super popular. Right?

So we don't need a game to have everything to be successful? OK. I choose PvE then. After all, we already have a bunch of really awesome/popular PvP only games right?

But think of how good a game can be if it has both PvE and PvP.

I hate to break it to you, but PvP is not the reason SWTOR has low subscription rates. If anything, PvP is what is keeping the subs as high as they are, because it gives people something to do when they finish all their PvE content...

hahahahahaha

jgold here has it right. comparing SWTOR to ME or even KOTOR is a mistake in the first place, because those are RPGs, not MMOs.

This is the same mistake of comparing it to KOTOR or ME, CS is a FPS, not an MMO, therefore, its a completely different style of game. While it is PvP, its not the PvP that an MMO player wants.

Once again, Youre making the mistake of comparing two games in completely separate genres. PvP in CS is different than PvP in SWTOR. An MMO is supposed to be a large game (hence the "massive" in massive multiplayer online), which has many different ways to play, and many things to do, you cant alienate a good portion of the player base just because you dont want to PvP, maybe some people do, and they want a MMO PvP experience. I made it easy for you to see there, so you can make a distinction.