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SWTOR Unleashed (game files in RAM to improve performance)

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CaptRavenous
10.13.2012 , 05:47 AM | #151
Quote: Originally Posted by exca View Post
SWTOR Unleashed 3.3.0 is out.
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10.14.2012 , 02:46 AM | #152
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Yes, for a system using an SSD readyboost probably wouldn’t help and I never said it would. What I said was ‘The only way to boost load speeds for TOR is have a USB 3.0 slot, put in a 8+ gig thumb drive, and activate the whole device for Readyboost.’ though you could also use a flash drive they just dont seem to help as much as the 3.0 thumb drive does. I've tried both with 16gb devices and the 3.0 USB was always the faster load.

My PC is a laptop, I-7 2860 CPU @ 3.5Ghz, 16gigs ddr3 1333 ram and 2 WD 7200rpm Scorpio Black drives. With those components when I go to Corrilia it takes anywhere from 65 to 80 seconds to load on my IP which is 25Mbps/5Mbps without any ram/boost mods running.

With SWTOR Unleashed the loads are the same. With Unleashed and readyboost the load is between 45 and 60 seconds the first time I go and about 5-15 seconds thereafter. Without Unleashed running and with readyboost active the loads are the same first time and after, between 45 and 60 seconds then 5 to 15 seconds.

So, yes, readyboost can in fact speed up your load times, even on the first visit to a planet, and a huge speed up after you’ve been once. If you want to see this in action, look me up on Pot5, and I’ll be happy to show you. Or, test it for yourself. It works for me.

edit-The one drawback is heat. Readyboost generates a lot of it on my laptop so I use a 3 fan cooling pad also. Even with that it still runs in the 65-70c range or rather hot while playing TOR and using Unleashed and RB.
It's quite simple, it's because your hard drive is slow. So running the game from a USB3 drive is faster than hard drive but slower than SSD which is also slower than Unleashed.
Realise that when you load an area the game mostly never load "again" LocalApp, DiskArena, FX or Dynamic (which are only loaded dynamically while moving in the game). You are instead loading planet files etc.... which you didn't put in Unleashed ram drive.
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Rothie
10.14.2012 , 04:16 AM | #153
Quote: Originally Posted by exca View Post
It's quite simple, it's because your hard drive is slow. So running the game from a USB3 drive is faster than hard drive but slower than SSD which is also slower than Unleashed.
Realise that when you load an area the game mostly never load "again" LocalApp, DiskArena, FX or Dynamic (which are only loaded dynamically while moving in the game). You are instead loading planet files etc.... which you didn't put in Unleashed ram drive.
Nothing is really surprising in computing. It's just that until you understand what's really going on, you might be mislead.
I’m not really sure what you think I’m trying to say. lol I understand quite well what’s going on and why it’s happening the way it does for each iteration I gave. I’m not saying readyboost will “magically” increase you throughput or anything either. What I am saying is that for the majority of computer users, (most don’t have SSD’s) using it will in fact show them noticeable decreases in load times, whether by not having to load a file successively after its stored or decreased seek times from a platen drive.

A difference of 30 plus seconds is a NOTICLEABLE decrease in load times, so saying readyboost won’t help is just wrong. Yes, Readyboost isn’t making the files download faster. It’s just making you have to download less data, either would lower the total time to travel, so who cares about semantics, faster is faster.
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10.14.2012 , 05:22 AM | #154
Quote: Originally Posted by Rothie View Post
I’m not really sure what you think I’m trying to say. lol I understand quite well what’s going on and why it’s happening the way it does for each iteration I gave. I’m not saying readyboost will “magically” increase you throughput or anything either. What I am saying is that for the majority of computer users, (most don’t have SSD’s) using it will in fact show them noticeable decreases in load times, whether by not having to load a file successively after its stored or decreased seek times from a platen drive.

A difference of 30 plus seconds is a NOTICLEABLE decrease in load times, so saying readyboost won’t help is just wrong. Yes, Readyboost isn’t making the files download faster. It’s just making you have to download less data, either would lower the total time to travel, so who cares about semantics, faster is faster.
I said all this because you compare/talk about unleashed noticing it doesn't change a thing about loading times while it's not made for this and you're not including in it the files you load. What's the point then?
By the way I agree 100% people should use in addition to unleashed readyboost if they don't have a SSD to speed up their loading times.
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10.14.2012 , 05:49 AM | #155
Quote: Originally Posted by exca View Post
I said all this because you compare/talk about unleashed noticing it doesn't change a thing about loading times while it's not made for this and you're not including in it the files you load. What's the point then?
By the way I agree 100% people should use in addition to unleashed readyboost if they don't have a SSD to speed up their loading times.
Yep, you misconstrued my point, or I should say I stated my point poorly. Yea, I looked back and did say ‘speed’ when I should have used ‘time’ instead. My comments were directed at swredrage’s comment about load times being at biowares mercy.

Most people don’t have enough ram to run all of SWTOR from Unleashed, so it’s not going to help them decrees time to planet travel. Adding a readyboost device along with Unleashed, for most players will help them in the long run. That was my point.

If you thought I was knocking your program, quite the opposite, I use it religiously. But it is designed for a specific use and once that’s maximized you need to add something in addition. For the average user, a readyboosted device is the easiest and cheapest thing to add. You can buy a 16gig SDHD flash drive for about $10us which is a lot cheaper than the cost of an SSD for your system.
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10.14.2012 , 06:54 PM | #156
What's the benefit of ticking the "add an extra 100MB" in additional options?

I also have 8gigs of ram, and with the recommended 7gb setup I'm getting the RAM warning each time I try to start up in Unleashed.

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RuthlessSloth
10.14.2012 , 08:07 PM | #157
Hey, I have 4GB of RAM and I choose the select FX and Local Maps options and try to run it unleashed, but I do that and I get a pop up saying I don't have enough RAM to do that, any ideas what's going on?

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10.14.2012 , 08:08 PM | #158
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What's the benefit of ticking the "add an extra 100MB" in additional options?

I also have 8gigs of ram, and with the recommended 7gb setup I'm getting the RAM warning each time I try to start up in Unleashed.
Should not be possible with 8 gigs of ram to expect it to start. The operating system is running for crying out loud.
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10.14.2012 , 08:38 PM | #159
I'm not saying Unleashed is using 7gb... I'm saying I'm using your recommended settings for 7gb of available ram, of which I have 8 (this equates to about 4.1gb usage from Unleashed.)

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Muesliac
10.14.2012 , 09:44 PM | #160
Thanks a lot for this!

I've had problems with sound stuttering (I actually had opened a ticket.... open for over a week, no response :-/).
As a last shot, I tried Unleashed. And not only did it solve my crackling/stuttering sound, it also upped my framerate and culled (micro-)stuttering animations. Again, my sincerest thanks. Plays like butter through a hot knife, now!


...Though I really have a hard time understanding what caused my sound to stutter in the first place. Since Unleashed seems to primarily utilize more of my RAM (8 Gigs here), can it be that sound files in TOR are heavily compressed, and the constant stuttering comes from TOR not being able to handle the decompression/playback on my system? That said, I run a lot of games on this rig (from WoW to TSW, ME3 and Skyrim), and TOR is the only one with any problem.

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