lock box debate

a important thing i want to mention on this.

When you buy a set of cards, you buy a set of cards, yes the face value of the cards are random but your getting a set of cards none the less.

A lockbox is random, you have no idea what is in the box it could be a nice shiny item you WANT or a med pack that you Don't,

if i had 1 box with a car key in it and a 2nd with a lemon and i charged people money to take the chance and pick a box i would be breaking the law by not having the correct licence.
money is only allowed on games of skill according to UK law, ( 2 people can play for money in a game of darts for example but for someone outside the game it would not be allowed and would require a licence)
anything that involves "chance" or 3rd party is gambling.

i think thats all the ways i'm able to describe gambling..lol

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/05...out-lockboxes/

year of the lockbox uprising?

1. Lockboxes are gambling, plain and simple.

If anyone tries to refute the above claim to you, then be prepared to listen to a chain of logic so twisted and bent that it's probably been run through a yoga class. The simple truth of all this is that you're plunking down a set amount of real-world money for a possibility of getting a reward you desire. It's gambling.

It's gambling... except it's worse.

You know what would be weird? If you walked into a casino and none of the machines or tables told you the odds. Everything else would be the same: the payout, the mechanics, the money required to play, but no odds. Just give us your money and hope you win but never have a clue how great or small your chances are of actually winning.

That is lockboxes in a nutshell. Nobody's forcing MMO studios to disclose odds, and it's in their best interests to not do it. They wouldn't want to scare away those pocketbooks, after all!

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/05...out-lockboxes/

year of the lockbox uprising?

Samd thats a good article that shows how bad they are for any MMO.
Also i wonder if LUCASARTS will be ok with real money gambling in a star wars game
they have lincense out. Have to send a mail and ask lucasfilm.

Ok i'm going to explain this since you obviously haven't bought a pack of cards recently.
This can be proven by going to your local Walmart or card shop, comics shop what ever.
When you buy ,let's say a pack of Topps baseball cards because you are hoping to get that autographed card or jersey card....if you peel up that back flap of the unopened pack of cards ,it will and does by law..list the odds of finding said card.Same with Magic The Gathering packs, you are guaranteed 1 rare card,3 uncommons and 11 common cards in each and every pack. With that inclusion of random foil cards you might get 2 rares,or 4 uncommons,or 12 commons randomly but you are always guaranteed those 1 R,3 UC,11 Common cards.

Lock boxes DO NOT guarantee any of this or state any odds. Thus unregulated, and yes it's your money spend it how you want.
How ever, the only thing I can say with certainty is this. If you don't want to support this ,please don't buy them. Let your wallet talk for you. Over 1 million ex subs have......so the power is still there.

It's going to contain gear.

Pack of cards may contain a rare card. Lockbox may contain rare gear.

Pack of cards wouldn't be a pack of cards if it had no cards in it, would it?

A pack of cards contains cards. A lockbox contains gear.

don't people seem to understand a pack of cards is just that, its 1 product

you buy a pack of cards and you get a pack of cards.

You buy a lockbox or a key to unlock the box and it can contain anything.... thats like buying a can of pop and not knowing what your drinking till its open.... i dont like apple flavor pop, i wanted a coke... so i got to keep buying cans of pop till i get my coke? I JUST WANT TO BUY THE CAN OF COKE!!!!!!!


it has nothing in common with a pack of cards, and there isn't a single educated source backing that up, not a single article online puts lockboxes in the same league as cards....

what about if them pack of cards all had the same packaging... so when you went to purchase the cards u want, you would have to take a chance and hope your packet matches your other sets. only way of knowing is by taking the chance and purchasing the blank package. just because they could be 20 different collections it doesn't matter right? afterall you just set out to buy a pack of cards... and thats what u got regardless if the cards are for a different set

Item A. Pack of cards, contents are cards. You get a chance to get some special cards, but you could get normal cards only.
Item B. Lockbox, contents are loot. You could get special loot, but you could get just normal loot only.