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Anakis
10.09.2012 , 10:41 AM | #21
I have one nVidia GTX 570 card and I did notice a slightly overall decrease in fps since 1.4, but I have no major graphic issues (stuttering) at all. I am using a driver that is dated Oct 15 2011 and version 8.17.12.8562. Maybe old drivers will help some people?
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Muwarr
10.09.2012 , 10:56 AM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by SpaniardInfinity View Post
Because we all know coding for gaming is so easy a caveman can do it.

The information is great for them on finding out where the root of the problem is. Surprisingly enough, complex systems sometimes require complex solutions. That may be why none of your proposed fixes are as easy to implement as you suspect. And if there is a workaround (ie. lowering your settings for the time being) so you can play the game but that's a dealbreaker, then I don't know if Bioware can do any thing to help you. Not sure if any developer can.

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PlagaNerezza
10.09.2012 , 11:04 AM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by Anakis View Post
I have one nVidia GTX 570 card and I did notice a slightly overall decrease in fps since 1.4, but I have no major graphic issues (stuttering) at all. I am using a driver that is dated Oct 15 2011 and version 8.17.12.8562. Maybe old drivers will help some people?
I had an older driver (prolly not 2011) but still older. The stuttering did not improve updating to that latest release. Some of the tuning like name plate helped, but its still apparent while moving around, even in areas with no other players. I haven't tried 1.4.1 yet to comment on the patch.

It was clearly related to the shadows update. I think the issue was they thought it was isolated to certain small subsets of players and under estimated or under reported to the higher ups the impact. Now they are in CYA mode. Smooth gameplay is very important. The stuttering gives it the feel of an untested, unpolished game. All the features and adds in the world cannot overcome poor visual performance. The engine has always been poor with shadows on. I know this isn't all that uncommon, but I've not had such poor performance on a game in a while in the lowest settings. Usually those are for laptops with integrated video cards that struggle. Systems with above average and higher graphics cards shouldn't be performing this poorly.
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Urael
10.09.2012 , 11:13 AM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by Venerok View Post
This is a BS reply. We've been telling you this with examples, photos, and after trying literally every possible fix that has been though of and you still have nothing but "disable shadows." This is all after folks reported this plenty on the PTS.
Agreed. Continue to call them out on this.

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Venerok
10.09.2012 , 11:15 AM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by SpaniardInfinity View Post
Because we all know coding for gaming is so easy a caveman can do it.

The information is great for them on finding out where the root of the problem is. Surprisingly enough, complex systems sometimes require complex solutions. That may be why none of your proposed fixes are as easy to implement as you suspect. And if there is a workaround (ie. lowering your settings for the time being) so you can play the game but that's a dealbreaker, then I don't know if Bioware can do any thing to help you. Not sure if any developer can.

In short. Patience, young padawan.
You are completely ignorant of the hundreds of things some of us have tried.

Ive tried 3 different Nvidia cards, downgraded drivers to more then 22 different versions, clean installed a harddrive with updated drivers all around, turned off and on seperately every single slider, option, control for graphics in this game, and gone down to the lowest resolutions.

Since the day 1.4 came out tons of people are left with a stuttering mess of a game while we continue to have to pay subscriptions with days of legitimately playing lost and they have nothing for us.

You assume too much and think that some of us are not willing to turn of shadows? You are so off base and clueless its astounding.

They had plenty of notice and information and STILL released the patch anyway.

Patience? This has been a bug riddled game for many for almost a year now. A paying customer, no matter how "complicated" a product is, is more than entitled to legitimate communication and help. When they receive neither for weeks, it is in no way fair to them to just "be patient" while their money is still being asked for.

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Urael
10.09.2012 , 11:15 AM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by PlagaNerezza View Post
I had an older driver (prolly not 2011) but still older. The stuttering did not improve updating to that latest release. Some of the tuning like name plate helped, but its still apparent while moving around, even in areas with no other players. I haven't tried 1.4.1 yet to comment on the patch.

It was clearly related to the shadows update. I think the issue was they thought it was isolated to certain small subsets of players and under estimated or under reported to the higher ups the impact. Now they are in CYA mode. Smooth gameplay is very important. The stuttering gives it the feel of an untested, unpolished game. All the features and adds in the world cannot overcome poor visual performance. The engine has always been poor with shadows on. I know this isn't all that uncommon, but I've not had such poor performance on a game in a while in the lowest settings. Usually those are for laptops with integrated video cards that struggle. Systems with above average and higher graphics cards shouldn't be performing this poorly.
Agreed.

Also, the latest drivers for Nvidia are needed to play MoP_WoW. The WoW runs very smooth with the latest drivers. I conclude it is not my computer since the only game having problems is SWTOR.

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kaligari
10.09.2012 , 11:20 AM | #27
Anyone else noticed that when opening friends panel fps drops do 1. That wasn t the case before 1.4.1 patch. It s really annoying.

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Kubernetic
10.09.2012 , 11:23 AM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by Venerok View Post
This is a BS reply. We've been telling you this with examples, photos, and after trying literally every possible fix that has been though of and you still have nothing but "disable shadows." This is all after folks reported this plenty on the PTS.
Yet it isn't happening to everyone. So it is a specific issue related to some specific hardware, and most likely a problem with the game's code and a specific set of drivers. Not the easiest thing in the world to fix.
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Urael
10.09.2012 , 11:24 AM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by kaligari View Post
Anyone else noticed that when opening friends panel fps drops do 1. That wasn t the case before 1.4.1 patch. It s really annoying.
That's a new "feature".

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aritheari
10.09.2012 , 11:30 AM | #30
The stuttering thing is a major bummer
So, it'll be another week or so of significantly less enjoyable play time, should I choose to loging to SWTOR.
Most MMO games don't feel responsive enough even when they run smooth, and if they stutter on top of that, things are bad.

I have no performance issues on other games, tried out a rather fluid MMO beta just yesterday actually, and it doesn't have a massive difference whether I run this game on highest or lowest, so... blehh. Wouldn't have felt the urge to add my tears to the pool, if some people didn't insist the problem to be mine rather than anything at all with the game.