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New raid armor art going into gambling boxes.

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New raid armor art going into gambling boxes.
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SikrouDeco
10.05.2012 , 02:55 PM | #171
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackavaar View Post
If they start putting anything in gambling boxes that you can't get any other way that will be the end of the game for me. That's the primary reason I left STO and I will leave any game that follows that example.

If they do put stuff in gamble boxes, there better damn well be an alternative way of getting it, even if it's just buying the item outright on the store. If they don't, I'm done.

It would be like the pvp champ gear boxes I'm sure. I opened 60 and no armor.
"I have a bad feeling about this.." Member since 2008

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Alec_Fortescue
10.05.2012 , 03:37 PM | #172
After the "good" old champion boxes I honestly don't want to see anymore of that in the game. It's ridiculous, imba, purely luck-based...

What they should (and prolly will) do is they will put the all items individually in the Cartel Shop while making the gambling boxes an alternative for less money. You can gamble - pay less than you'd pay normally but have only a chance to find some random item. Don't remember now but don't they have that in Battlefield Heroes? You can buy all items individually for sick money or you can get yourself cheaper but random weapon packs.
Si vis pacem, para bellum

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I would love KotOR 1 Jedi robes, too!

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Alec_Fortescue
10.05.2012 , 03:39 PM | #173
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Si vis pacem, para bellum

Traditional Jedi robes please! And then I am gone from general discussion. Promise! :]
Devs, it can't get any more iconic and traditional than this: http://i.imgur.com/9ha8ELu.jpg http://i.imgur.com/2NoBT6o.jpg http://imgur.com/7nHRBnW http://i.imgur.com/5J9oXnP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ek3XDEc.jpg

I would love KotOR 1 Jedi robes, too!

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arunav
10.05.2012 , 04:05 PM | #174
Quote: Originally Posted by vandana_ View Post
I'm paying a subscription and until F2P goes live it's a subscription game. Should I accept that the money I pay is going into development of features I won't get? No, i won't.

FYI I won't spend a single penny on the cash shop and if the game dies because of it I honestly don't care. And stop with the emotional blackmail. it's EA management that put those people in this position. Not me.
This is the funniest thing I've read in some time.

Let's say you like those Quaker Chewy granola bars while you don't do anything but play TOR and complain about how it is the worst game ever. Man, Chocolate Chip is a damn fine flavor, and you eat only Chocolate Chip. You do know Quaker is taking some of your money to make that S'mores flavor other people prefer, right? Or, wow, Peanut Butter Chocolate Chip is the bomb, someone somewhere said. And someone else might buy all three at once, because they just can't help themselves.

And you know that the grocery store isn't selling to you at cost, right?

Do you pay taxes?

How do you manage to leave your house with the necessity of everything you participate in strictly needing to benefit only you?

You're paying roughly 50 cents a day to access servers to play a video game. You aren't owed anything in particular.

It's LA/EA/BW's product, and I hope it's around for a long time to come with the new F2P model, with some sweet Star Wars stuff to purchase in the cash shop that will fund bug fixes and more new content.

And, yes, you can certainly still quit and feel free to do this instead! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHA-_Bxisochttp://

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MarekLonefeather
10.06.2012 , 01:05 AM | #175
Quote: Originally Posted by arunav View Post
You missed my point - in addition to what's already in TOR, there will also be orange shells for sale in the cash shop.

You shouldn't have a problem putting together an armor set and avoiding the gambling boxes.

And by putting together, it might indicate taking pieces from multiple sets to achieve a certain look you value. If you take what people have done with their WH and Campaign armorings, there are some really great and unique looks that people have come up with, no matter the class. This will only get better with the addition of the shop.
No. You're the one that is missing the point. And that point is that there are certain armor appearances already existing in the game that a lot of us have been wanting custom versions of, but they don't currently exist in the game in custom form. The devs asked everyone to list the armor they wanted custom versions of in a thread on this forum and said they would see about adding those custom versions to the game. Now we're being told that, yes, they are adding the custom versions we asked for but the only way for us to get them is to purchase a gambling box for a random chance. This has absolutely nothing to do with simply finding a unique look. It has everything to do with getting the specific items we have been searching for without having to gamble real money for them. It has everything to do with us telling the devs what would make us happy and the devs, once again, screwing the pooch and alienating more of us with their misguided gambling scheme.

If you are really interested in keeping players from leaving this game, do you really think belittling their complaints is helpful in that regard?

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Deewe
10.08.2012 , 09:11 AM | #176
Quote: Originally Posted by chuixupu View Post
Honestly, if you don't like the idea of buying a box that you don't know what the contents will be, don't go to the cash shop and buy the stuff. Problem solved.
Issue being if we can't get the items without any other means it's gambling for money.

As stated by others not only it's illegal in some states and countries but also minors are playing the game.
Unless they start requiring people to be adults to play TOR they'll have serious issues.

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vandana_
10.08.2012 , 09:28 AM | #177
Quote: Originally Posted by arunav View Post
It's LA/EA/BW's product, and I hope it's around for a long time to come with the new F2P model, with some sweet Star Wars stuff to purchase in the cash shop that will fund bug fixes and more new content.
I didn't bother to read too much into your babble but apparently you like paying for the cash shop items before cash shop is even live while EA is laughing in your face: "we intend but not this time because we didn't intend for this time". I suggest you find the EA account number and start making some additional transfers so they can put even more stuff tn those gambling boxes.

While you are doing that i'd still like to get my money's worth.
V'ox

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Macheath
10.08.2012 , 10:08 AM | #178
Not to sound old, but I remember a day when my $15 per month would pay for EVERYTHING that comes in an MMO. That includes making every armor model available to me.

Whether you are a free to play customer or a monthly sub customer, you'll still have to pay extra if you want access to "everything." It's truly sad that gaming companies have quietly redefined just what our $15 per month is worth, and we sat there and let them do it.

-Macheath.
Remember, if the world didn't suck, we'd all fall off.

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vandana_
10.08.2012 , 10:24 AM | #179
Quote: Originally Posted by Macheath View Post
Not to sound old, but I remember a day when my $15 per month would pay for EVERYTHING that comes in an MMO. That includes making every armor model available to me.

Whether you are a free to play customer or a monthly sub customer, you'll still have to pay extra if you want access to "everything." It's truly sad that gaming companies have quietly redefined just what our $15 per month is worth, and we sat there and let them do it.

-Macheath.
Every corporation will try to milk its product and see how far can they go. I remember when Blizzard tried to introduce "premium" feature of grouping with real-id friends for extra money. That was the only time i ever posted in WoW forums and so did 1000s of other players. They learned their lesson and gave up on it. Now they even dropped the subscription on remote AH and guildchat. All they have is 3-4 pets in web store (no ads in game) which i can forgive them I even purchased a pet when the income was going to Japan tsunami charity which was very decent of them - and that was the only time when I paid anything on top of subscription.

But that's Blizzard. A company that EAware tries to copy so hard but always fails. that is because EAware can't understand that greed will get them nowhere. SWTOR failed already to keep the subscription model and meet the initial expectations. That was mostly due to EA's greed and rushed Christmas release. Now they are doing the same - they are already milking the subscribers. Thing is, their level of hypocrisy is just unprecedented. I mean "we never intended to put any armor in TFB but we have some armor ready for cash shop gambling bags". Really?

I despise this bunch of con artists.

Do you really think people are that blind EA?
V'ox

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Alec_Fortescue
10.08.2012 , 11:43 AM | #180
Quote: Originally Posted by vandana_ View Post
Every corporation will try to milk its product and see how far can they go. I remember when Blizzard tried to introduce "premium" feature of grouping with real-id friends for extra money. That was the only time i ever posted in WoW forums and so did 1000s of other players. They learned their lesson and gave up on it. Now they even dropped the subscription on remote AH and guildchat. All they have is 3-4 pets in web store (no ads in game) which i can forgive them I even purchased a pet when the income was going to Japan tsunami charity which was very decent of them - and that was the only time when I paid anything on top of subscription.

But that's Blizzard. A company that EAware tries to copy so hard but always fails. that is because EAware can't understand that greed will get them nowhere. SWTOR failed already to keep the subscription model and meet the initial expectations. That was mostly due to EA's greed and rushed Christmas release. Now they are doing the same - they are already milking the subscribers. Thing is, their level of hypocrisy is just unprecedented. I mean "we never intended to put any armor in TFB but we have some armor ready for cash shop gambling bags". Really?

I despise this bunch of con artists.

Do you really think people are that blind EA?
Stahl is with you, man. It's even more outrageous that they call tfb gear to be a new tier but it is just a poor recolour. I am sure they already have a lot of armor sets/existing armor variants with hood toggle but they gonna keep all of them for few long months til the cash shop.
Si vis pacem, para bellum

Traditional Jedi robes please! And then I am gone from general discussion. Promise! :]
Devs, it can't get any more iconic and traditional than this: http://i.imgur.com/9ha8ELu.jpg http://i.imgur.com/2NoBT6o.jpg http://imgur.com/7nHRBnW http://i.imgur.com/5J9oXnP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ek3XDEc.jpg

I would love KotOR 1 Jedi robes, too!