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The Dread Masters


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losdia
08.27.2012 , 03:52 AM | #11
A fairly big non-spoiler is that we know what happens to The Empire. Something like 800 years after TOR is the Darth Bane era. By that point there isn't a unified Sith any longer and the pure bloods are extinct. From the books we more or less how it happens too. There isn't some big climactic victory for the Republic, the nature of the Sith is their undoing. They fracture into a dozen different Sith Orders who all turn on each other and give the Jedi a chance to get their act together. The Dread Masters are the beginning of the end of the Empire.

It will still be fairly cool to see how it all goes down though.
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Temeluchus
08.27.2012 , 02:46 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by losdia View Post
A fairly big non-spoiler is that we know what happens to The Empire. Something like 800 years after TOR is the Darth Bane era. By that point there isn't a unified Sith any longer and the pure bloods are extinct. From the books we more or less how it happens too. There isn't some big climactic victory for the Republic, the nature of the Sith is their undoing. They fracture into a dozen different Sith Orders who all turn on each other and give the Jedi a chance to get their act together. The Dread Masters are the beginning of the end of the Empire.

It will still be fairly cool to see how it all goes down though.
You completely skipped over Darth Ruin and his Empire,which comes before the Brotherhood of Darkness and then Bane and is thought to be built from pockets of Sith that survived from this era along with his Fallen Jedi.

All we know from the lore is that this version of the Sith Empire ceased to be,they could have destroyed themselves, they could have been beaten by the Republic, they could tire of war and joined the Republic,hell they could have won the war at some great cost(like a majority of the Purebloods) and put on the face of the Republic. The point is we don't know and it allows for freedom in the lore for the writers.

The Dread Masters are one of many major threats and it's pretty tough to point to them as the begining of the end. The Hutt Cartel is beginning to make a power play, the Star Cabal is still around, Malgus's apprentice is running around probably a bit peeved and we still have the Emperor drama.
"Men call me Darkstar, and I am of the night.

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TheBetty
08.27.2012 , 04:38 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Temeluchus View Post
You completely skipped over Darth Ruin and his Empire,which comes before the Brotherhood of Darkness and then Bane and is thought to be built from pockets of Sith that survived from this era along with his Fallen Jedi.

All we know from the lore is that this version of the Sith Empire ceased to be,they could have destroyed themselves, they could have been beaten by the Republic, they could tire of war and joined the Republic,hell they could have won the war at some great cost(like a majority of the Purebloods) and put on the face of the Republic. The point is we don't know and it allows for freedom in the lore for the writers.

The Dread Masters are one of many major threats and it's pretty tough to point to them as the begining of the end. The Hutt Cartel is beginning to make a power play, the Star Cabal is still around, Malgus's apprentice is running around probably a bit peeved and we still have the Emperor drama.
You could see it as an expansion for the game 'The Return of the Emporer' or somewhere along those lines
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Karkais
08.28.2012 , 01:38 AM | #14
I hope Bioware revamps their masks before the new operation... I am not intimidated by rubber halloween masks.
"Their strength became my own. Their minds became my own. All flesh is my flesh. None move, save I will it. This is the rule the Sith were promised, and I have made it real!"
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bobmcbo
08.29.2012 , 01:43 PM | #15
1. if they're so powerful, how were they captured?
2. why not just kill them? that's the question with just about every prisoner on belsavis
OMG! Imperial ships can get a .00008% power increase! Nerf the empire!

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Temeluchus
08.29.2012 , 02:02 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by bobmcbo View Post
1. if they're so powerful, how were they captured?
2. why not just kill them? that's the question with just about every prisoner on belsavis
1. Simple, they fell into the old cliche of thinking their power made them invincible,they got overconfident and got beaten and then captured.

2. If you played KOTOR at all you'd know the Jedi do not kill their prisoners. Instead they imprison them or screw with their minds a la Revan. What they should have done at the very least was separate them in Belsavis, as they are more powerful together. The Republic had to learn the hard way to at least put them in stasis after they killed every living thing within a mile radius in their prison until the Republic smartened up enough and put them to sleep.
"Men call me Darkstar, and I am of the night.

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starnano
10.05.2012 , 03:56 PM | #17
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it sucks when you first meet them they are the coolest sith ever now there renagades trying to kill both empire and sith kinda seems like red reeper FP i was kinda hoping to have them as an ally like getting missions from them and all

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Temeluchus
10.05.2012 , 04:02 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by starnano View Post
it sucks when you first meet them they are the coolest sith ever now there renagades trying to kill both empire and sith kinda seems like red reeper FP i was kinda hoping to have them as an ally like getting missions from them and all
They aren't typical renegades per se. The saw a power vacuum in the Empire and merely stepped in to fill it. They believe the current Empire is weak though and want to purge the weakness and rebuild from the ashes as well as destroy the Republic once and for all.

As soon as you freed them and they displayed their power you had to know it was going to come back and bite us in the butt eventually.

I wish BW would get away from our Imperial BAMFs being more of a threat to the Empire(see;Sith Emperor,Darth Malgus,Dread Masters) and let some of them start to put the hurt on the Republic. I know they do it so they don't have to create new bosses and Operations for each faction, but it's getting to become too predictable.
"Men call me Darkstar, and I am of the night.

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Lithaladh
10.22.2012 , 12:36 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by bobmcbo View Post
1. if they're so powerful, how were they captured?
2. why not just kill them? that's the question with just about every prisoner on belsavis
1) The Dread Masters are non-combatants and, being sith, don't have much of a connection to each other. The codex states that they meditate and/or accept gifts from supplicants as well as updating the emperor what the latest thing they saw in regards to future is. It isn't stated that the fight wars, just being the generals of armies, this doesn't have to be a combative position either. Due to the fact that they favour wielding fear, it is very likely that they felt that they wouldn't have had to even enter melee combat as everyone just lost their will to fight/fainted/peed their pants . . .among other things and therefore can't attack.
How you separate them is another can of worms as you would need at least a few master jedi and a lot of folk that are used to working through primal fear (that could be developed by facing manny, many sith and surviving the encounters). But, once they are separated and alone, I'll wager that it'll be an easy victory.

2) It is as Temeluchus said,
Quote: Originally Posted by Temeluchus View Post
2. If you played KOTOR at all you'd know the Jedi do not kill their prisoners. Instead they imprison them or screw with their minds a la Revan. What they should have done at the very least was separate them in Belsavis, as they are more powerful together. The Republic had to learn the hard way to at least put them in stasis after they killed every living thing within a mile radius in their prison until the Republic smartened up enough and put them to sleep.