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Satele abandoned her illegitimate child. Why is she my spiritual leader?

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Satele abandoned her illegitimate child. Why is she my spiritual leader?

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errant_knight
10.04.2012 , 03:15 PM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by Halinmonk View Post
What choice is that?
The choice to
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Eillack
10.04.2012 , 03:26 PM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by errant_knight View Post
The choice to
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Lol I loved making the
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errant_knight
10.04.2012 , 03:29 PM | #43
Yeah, I haven`t made a single character who didn`t think that was a really good idea, lol.

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OldVengeance
10.04.2012 , 04:58 PM | #44
Yeah the "Jedi are forbidden to have romance thing" came with the PT I think. And the explanation for the Tales of The Jedi era having romance all the time was that the Jedi Order reformed after the Battle of Ruusan. But then the original Kotor game retconed that and now the EU basically has a plot hole regarding Jedi romance. Is Tales of the Jedi is non cannon now then?

Also I haven't read either comic but I think it's:

"Tales of the Jedi" covers The Great Hyperspace War and Great Sith War.

"Jedi vs Sith" covers the Army of Light and the Brotherhood of Darkness during the New Sith Wars.

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Rabenschwinge
10.05.2012 , 07:36 AM | #45
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It is explicitly stated that you will be her new master taking over for Master Kiwiiks. She calls you master (not because you are a jedi master, which you aren't, but because she is your padawan), and you (and other npcs) call her your padawan. And romance can start as early as Nar Shaddaa, well before the end of act 1. If you don't believe me for whatever reason search "Kira Carsen Romance and Story Part 1" on youtube.
I think Padawans call any Jedi beyond the rank of a Padawan "Master"... Just like people who are not Jedi at all. While Jedi refer to each other or to one with a lower rank more often with their first name. (Of course using the first name isn't an option in SW:TOR)

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Zardac_the_Great
10.06.2012 , 01:28 PM | #46
The Jedi do/say a lot of heinous and/or stupid things that the Star Wars universe sees as noble. That's one of the reasons why I really don't like them.


It's just that the Sith are so much worse.

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Halinmonk
10.06.2012 , 06:08 PM | #47
The Sith might be worse, but at least their honest.

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Zardac_the_Great
10.07.2012 , 05:30 PM | #48
Indeed. At least about that.

It seems the Force "forces" people to lie. The Jedi believe in telling the truth...except for when they don't. The Sith will lie their lips off, but they don't try to hide what they really are. For the most part.

For me, Jedi vs Sith is much like the choice of GDI vs. Nod. I very much dislike the Jedi and GDI, but they're less likely to kill you than the Sith or Nod is.

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dezcordero
10.08.2012 , 07:33 AM | #49
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Lord I hate the line "had no choice" Everyone has a choice in all things they do. It may not be the best of choices, but there is always a choice.

As for her choices, she could either leave the order, and raise her child, or remain in the order, and give up her child. Or furthermore, she could have made the choice to keep her legs together, and avoid the issue entirely.

Bottom line, she had a choice, to say otherwise is foolish at best.
She had a choice, and it was a very difficult one. She was young, and it was in the middle of the war, and she gave her toddler to Ngani Zho. Tharan was not an infant, you can see the exchange in the Lost Suns comics. Whether she was right or not doesn't matter. The point is that, when everything was said and done, she chose the order over her son, which is what a "true" jedi is supposed to do.

And look at how light side and dark side points are counted in game - even if you do a few darker things here and there, but overall your actions are light-sided, then you're ultimately light sided. Some who disregard the jedi code or follows it loosly is not a fully light sided jedi, and may even be closer to neutral (gray) ala Qui-gon Jinn or even Jolee Bindo.

What Satele did that was different was she went on, after giving custody of her son to her old master, was to embrace the jedi code fully. As evidenced by her and the peace delagates accepting the Treaty of Coruscant when Aryn Leneer left the order.

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dezcordero
10.08.2012 , 07:36 AM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by OldVengeance View Post
Yeah the "Jedi are forbidden to have romance thing" came with the PT I think. And the explanation for the Tales of The Jedi era having romance all the time was that the Jedi Order reformed after the Battle of Ruusan. But then the original Kotor game retconed that and now the EU basically has a plot hole regarding Jedi romance. Is Tales of the Jedi is non cannon now then?

Also I haven't read either comic but I think it's:

"Tales of the Jedi" covers The Great Hyperspace War and Great Sith War.

"Jedi vs Sith" covers the Army of Light and the Brotherhood of Darkness during the New Sith Wars.
The Ruusan Reformation came about 2000 years after the KOTOR era so it wasn't retconned.

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