Satele abandoned her illegitimate child. Why is she my spiritual leader?

Actually, she isn't your padawan. She already has a master. You just call her padawan because it's her title.

I think calling Kira your padawan is stretching the traditional definition a fair amount. They were almost at the same rank in the order and the Knight graduated from being a padawan slightly earlier. Personally I think The Knight and Kira are closer to partners than teacher and student. I guess she is technically your padawan but it's informal. Plus I'm pretty sure you can always wait until after she has become a Jedi Knight to start the romance.

When she "officially" joins you they say that she will be joining you as your padawan, you will be taking over for Master Kiwiiks. It's not uncommon for padawans to have more than one master.

Oops, guess I missed that bit. Probably because my greyish jedi thought that was ridiculous, lol. He never thought of Kira as his Padawan.

Jedi marrying and having kids is probably the craziest tangle of retcons in the EU. It was a fairly common backstory for characters in the earlier New Republic era stories (e.g. anything that was written before the AoTC) to say that a character had a Secret Jedi parent who tragically died during the "dark times." They actually preemptively retconed this in the book Rouge Planet, where they explained that it wasn't uncommon for Jedi of the pre-clone wars era to go into semi-retirement once they reached the rank of Master and go off to raise a family. I think the current canon they've settled on is that marriage was against the rules of the Jedi Order, but a lot of people did it anyway and the Council could grant exceptions to the rule for good reasons (like; I really want to) to people that they thought could be trusted (for example, someone who wouldn't do stupid things like have a quicky vegas style wedding and then lie about it).

It is little weird that there are rules about this in TOR. The main original source for this era is (the unreadable comic series) Tales of The Jedi, which was lousy with 10th generation Jedi Nobles off leading The Army of Light. I think it was added to KoTOR mostly to add a touch of "forbidden romance" to spice things up and add a connection to later canon.

On the topic at hand though, I liked the story about Satele having a kid. I thought It added a nice touch of tragedy to the character. I saw it less as abandonment, and more a choice she was forced to make between duty and family.

When exactly does this romance start to become more serious?


To the topic: I believe she's grand master because she's best for the job, regardless of what she may have done in the past.

The way I see it attachment is not dark side on its own, it just has the danger of driving you to make dark choices. Luke almost fell to the dark side when he felt his sister threatened and faced an enemy he wasn't ready for when he felt his friends would be tortured. (Which wasn't dark side on its own either, imho, but it might easily have become that way.)

An off topic note: Some of the most interesting choices are ones where while the light side choice follows the letter of the code, the DS choice might well save more lives in the long run and prevent foreseeable harm. These are the choices that make my Republic characters grey.

It's easier to make a purely LS imperial, I find, as more of the DS choices are of the strangling kittens variety. Still, only one of my LS imperials is purely LS and that`s because he started on Korriban, not Hutta where there`s a DS choice that I always take, and my good guys feel just fine about it..

What choice is that?

It is explicitly stated that you will be her new master taking over for Master Kiwiiks. She calls you master (not because you are a jedi master, which you aren't, but because she is your padawan), and you (and other npcs) call her your padawan. And romance can start as early as Nar Shaddaa, well before the end of act 1. If you don't believe me for whatever reason search "Kira Carsen Romance and Story Part 1" on youtube.

I'm pretty sure that's not the Tales of the Jedi comics. TotJ took place almost 60 years before the original KOTOR games, and almost 400 years before the events of The Old Republic. The Jedi Nobles and the Army of Light are from the Battle of Ruusan, which doesn't happen for at least another 2000 years. That battle, though, led to the Ruusan Reformations, and therefore to the Republic and Jedi Order that you see in the prequels.

I agree, it IS more than a little strange that TOR objects to Jedi having romances and marriages, considering this is not so far removed from the Tales of the Jedi comics. (Andur and Nomi Sunrider, anyone?)