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Same gender relationships clarifications?

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Same gender relationships clarifications?
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Eleuril
10.04.2012 , 04:36 AM | #2111
Quote: Originally Posted by HellbirdIV View Post
It's called "Punish", and it makes you pimp-slap your current companion because... Well, because Sith don't need a reason to be abusive.

I made it a habit of using it on Khem Val every time he Disapproved of me making a decision just because it wasn't murderous-crazy. His sobbing is music to my ears.
I must make a Pureblood character one day. I can see myself using it a lot on Vette. Perhaps I could reach 50 and make another agent, I'd REALLY like to use it on Kaliyo.

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Tatile
10.04.2012 , 06:19 AM | #2112
Quote: Originally Posted by Eleuril View Post
Not quite in that sense. Well, perhaps with Kaliyo. But yes, do excuse me, back to the topic in hand. I'm on the wrong side of the pond to be pestering at Comic Con, unfortunately.

In case some people aren't sure what we're talking about, I believe this is what Tatile means.
Yes, a lot of people (myself included) have asked if Bioware have any plans to visit their non-US players, but I highly suspect they won't. It's unfortunate, but I don't believe any US-based games company has gone to non-US conventions or meet-and-greets, and we know how much Bioware hates to break the mold on things.

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HellbirdIV
10.04.2012 , 06:24 AM | #2113
Quote: Originally Posted by Tatile View Post
Yes, a lot of people (myself included) have asked if Bioware have any plans to visit their non-US players, but I highly suspect they won't. It's unfortunate, but I don't believe any US-based games company has gone to non-US conventions or meet-and-greets, and we know how much Bioware hates to break the mold on things.
I get the sinking feeling that they'd avoid answering any questions on "our" subject anyway... But, to avoid sounding too pessimistic, I'll say that I like to think that they simply want to keep things under wraps to avoid yet another repeat of the "Gays in space!" hate they've gotten in the past...

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Tatile
10.04.2012 , 06:31 AM | #2114
Quote: Originally Posted by HellbirdIV View Post
I get the sinking feeling that they'd avoid answering any questions on "our" subject anyway... But, to avoid sounding too pessimistic, I'll say that I like to think that they simply want to keep things under wraps to avoid yet another repeat of the "Gays in space!" hate they've gotten in the past...
I don't think they're going to be answering ANY questions about ANY subject, ranging from PvP balancing having negative affects on PvE play (and vice versa) to the Super Secret Space Project to why all Jedi robes are brown, so not answering questions regarding SGRA's would be par for the course at their pub crawl and God knows they don't talk about SWTOR at their panels. So long as they don't address concerns about other parts of the game at all, I'm fine with them not answering questions about SGRA's, but as soon as they start discussing the game then they should approach SGRA's. It's not a PvP panel, you don't have to concentrate on PvP, but if you're answering general questions... yeah.

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Rabenschwinge
10.04.2012 , 06:59 AM | #2115
The more I think about it, a couple of new characters would be really nice instead of new romances for the old character. Let Kira remain my friend; that's fine with me, let Nadia remain my padawan and pupil. I know an entirely new character is an insane amount of work as compared to "upgrading" an existing one, but, even putting the demand for same gender romances aside, per the companions available and the density of their story and personality (with few exception when a character is tied to the class story) is not overwhelming.

And I would seriously suggest to not make those new companions restricted to a single one class, because that means a hell of a lot development time with relatively little yield. Also that would mean if new companions were introduced, you could have some male gay, some female gay and some straight and everybody would be happy. If you made the same "per class" that would consume years to develop.

PS: Starbuck to all Vipers - do not fire... repeat, do not fire! I am a friendly, okay? We're all friendlies. So, let's just... be friendly.
Ah, yes. "Reapers."

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Ayslinn_Iduviel
10.04.2012 , 07:10 AM | #2116
I'll bet that they're not going to add more companions: as you said, too much efforts just to make happy what (I think, and I repeat, I think) they consider a bunch of whiners. We'll be lucky to get Sgr options at all IMO.

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Rabenschwinge
10.04.2012 , 08:08 AM | #2117
Quote: Originally Posted by Ayslinn_Iduviel View Post
I'll bet that they're not going to add more companions: as you said, too much efforts just to make happy what (I think, and I repeat, I think) they consider a bunch of whiners. We'll be lucky to get Sgr options at all IMO.
Companions are an integral part of any Bioware game. It is not unusual for Bioware to add companions retroactively to any game, and since this is a game that costs mostly fees (yet), I don't find it so unlikely. A typical Bioware shot in the knee was of course the 0-day add on for Mass Effect 3, containing one character which was important to the player's view on the storyline. Since I bought a steel book special version for 80 it was part of my game, but it was still not ideal that you had to think of manually update the game. It took me hours to get Mass Effect 3 installed and updated with all add-ons. That's not what I buy a steel book edition for.

I don't know what's going on Bioware, but I suppose they make their decesions based on economic projections. A 'whiner' is not just a 'whiner' but an unhappy customer - or at least a customer that could be more happy with their product. The question is, whether it is worth making a particular group of customers happy, because it's obviously impossible to give everyone what they want with the limited resources they have. But consider that a new companion is a new companion to everyone. Whereas a new romance option that suits the sexuality of a minority affects only a relatively small group of customers.

New to Bioware is that the companions depend on your class choice. That is in part due to the fact that in a single player game you can only make one class choice, whereas in an MMOG all class choices are represented at all time and it's of vital importance to keep the experience of different classes different. Still I think in this regard Bioware has to go back at least a bit to the roots. Yes, it is a lot of work, because unlike Mass Effect, there isn't just male and female Shepard, the dialogues would have to be a lot more different based on the classes.

They won't add more companions for that singular purpose, but I am pretty certain that eventually they will add more companions. The audience - and not just those interested in same gender romance story arcs - simply expects it.
Ah, yes. "Reapers."

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stuffystuffs
10.04.2012 , 09:47 AM | #2118
Quote: Originally Posted by Rabenschwinge View Post
And I would seriously suggest to not make those new companions restricted to a single one class, because that means a hell of a lot development time with relatively little yield. Also that would mean if new companions were introduced, you could have some male gay, some female gay and some straight and everybody would be happy. If you made the same "per class" that would consume years to develop.
I guarantee not everyone would be happy with that.
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HellbirdIV
10.04.2012 , 09:57 AM | #2119
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I guarantee not everyone would be happy with that.
Yeah, you could alter the game so that you occasionally get candy straight out of your CD drive when you deliver Daily quests, and some people would still complain it's the wrong brand of chocolate. That's just how online gamers are :P

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Rabenschwinge
10.04.2012 , 10:03 AM | #2120
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I guarantee not everyone would be happy with that.
I am assuming the vast majority of gamers is neither intersted in same gender romances, nor has a problem with their existance... Of course I have no hard evidence for this.
Ah, yes. "Reapers."