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I've gone through the first three pages - Queuing for WZ/FPs rationale?

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I've gone through the first three pages - Queuing for WZ/FPs rationale?
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Andryah
10.03.2012 , 09:46 AM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
The BETTER solution would have been to suppress the GF pop-up until AFTER a WZ. 13min max.
That is a selfish, individual player centered view (as contrasted with what is good for the community of GF as a whole) IMO. It does nothing to resolve queues stalling on the non-PvP side. In fact, it encourages more bad behavior.
Forum disputatio ------> est completum ineptias.

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TUXs
10.03.2012 , 09:48 AM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
That is a selfish, player centered view IMO. It does nothing to resolve queues stalling on the non-PvP side. In fact, it encourages more bad behavior.
How on earth does it "encourage more bad behavior"? Suppressing the pop-up would mean the very most you'd be delayed is 13 min for a PvE mission, well under that the majority of the time.
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Andryah
10.03.2012 , 09:53 AM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
How on earth does it "encourage more bad behavior"? Suppressing the pop-up would mean the very most you'd be delayed is 13 min for a PvE mission, well under that the majority of the time.
It injects more exception case cycles into the GF, just so an individual player is able to stack his queues. It encourages stacking of queues... which was not the intended play style.
Forum disputatio ------> est completum ineptias.

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iamthehoyden
10.03.2012 , 09:59 AM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
It encourages stacking of queues... which was not the intended play style.
Source?
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Andryah
10.03.2012 , 10:01 AM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by iamthehoyden View Post
Source?
This very thread... where people are complaining because they cannot stack queues. Sad to say, but since the player base lacks the maturity to not stack queues, Bioware did the "Mom" thing... and fixed it for them.
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iamthehoyden
10.03.2012 , 10:02 AM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
This very thread... where people are complaining because they cannot stack queues. Sad to say, but since the player base lacks the maturity to not stack queues, Bioware did the "Mom" thing... and fixed it for them.
Ah, thank you, so you have no real official source for your statement of fact that stacking queues was not the intended playstyle. Understood.
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Andryah
10.03.2012 , 10:03 AM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by iamthehoyden View Post
Ah, thank you, so you have no real official source for your statement of fact that stacking queues was not the intended playstyle. Understood.
Dude.... they said in Allisons post that it was not the playstyle they wanted. It was causing unintented problems (and I'm sure, many player complaints), so they stepped in and fixed it.

Of course we could argue back and forth all day about the fix they chose, but that would be pointless.... they addressed a problem, and installed a fix. Working as intended now, even though some people don't like being forced to not stack queues.
Forum disputatio ------> est completum ineptias.

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PakaOno
10.03.2012 , 10:06 AM | #48
More proof that the Devs don't play their own game!

Group finder queue's take forever! So now the only option is to sit on fleet for ~hour and do nothing if you want to stay in the group finder queue. Way to kill group finder. Queues take even longer now to pop due to less people in them.

Anyone who PvPs knows that while some people drop a WZ midway due to a queue pop, the majority of people who quit a WZ immediately re-queue upon exit.

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Andryah
10.03.2012 , 10:08 AM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by PakaOno View Post
More proof that the Devs don't play their own game!

Group finder queue's take forever! So now the only option is to sit on fleet for ~hour and do nothing if you want to stay in the group finder queue. Way to kill group finder. Queues take even longer now to pop due to less people in them.

Anyone who PvPs knows that while some people drop a WZ midway due to a queue pop, the majority of people who quit a WZ immediately re-queue upon exit.
So to you personally, there is nothing to do except: queue for a WZ, queue for a FP, sit in fleet and complain? I see. Thing is, not everybody has such a self-constrained playstyle.
Forum disputatio ------> est completum ineptias.

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Joesixxpack
10.03.2012 , 10:09 AM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by anakedcowboy View Post
The loss to a warzone team is minimal when warzones backfill instantly or near instantly.[/B]
Because warzone backfill is working as intendedTM, and certainly no bugs exist that regularly cause teams to have only 6 or 7 players