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Fremoc's Avatar

09.28.2012 , 09:57 AM | #1
Has anyone noticed their heat go up a lot faster since 1.4?

I was running TFB Story with my guild, and our three bounty hunters' heat went through the roofs. Thoughts?
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Chunggun's Avatar

09.28.2012 , 10:36 AM | #2
I reported this issue in the CS forums. I received no reply and it is now on page 50. It's not just raids. In regular story content, my heat is CRAZY. Three or four special abilities and it is maxed. I'm able to knock one gold down to about 80% health before I start hitting him with gummy bears and hugs fired from the default attack

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09.28.2012 , 10:38 AM | #3
Mind linking that thread? I wouldn't mind putting a bump on that.
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09.28.2012 , 10:53 AM | #4
There was an issue on the PTS, that I included in my thread that also wound up getting buried, with BH mechanics. This includes 4 items, based on the arsenal spec:

1. "Free" Railshot: with the 4pc set bonus and talents, this is quite commonly not free any longer, at least consistantly. Randomly, it will still cost an additional 8 heat. There is no rhyme or reason i was able to ascertain. sometimes it would not happen for 5 or 6 railshots, and others it would be every railshot.

2. Target swapping: currently, there is alot more of this happening, which throws resource management out of whack. Wind up time & heat has always been an issue with multiple target swapping phases, but the new content makes this happen more often.

3. Insta-heal: The heal still uses heat, and if used, as with the "free" railshot not being free, throws the resource management out of whack.

Given the classes extreme reliance on careful resource management, the above have a heavy impact on the class in general, requiring more "filler" rapid shots. This is likely why you are seeing heat issues. I would recommend watching your heat during railshot procs.

The other non-heat related issue revolved around Unload Procs. The 2nd Mainhand tick does not appear to have the correct coefficients applied. For instance:

1. On Kephiss in TFB, when he gets the stacking debuff to take increased damage, the amount done for each of my 3 MH Crit attacks can be 14k, 4.5k, 14k.

2. On normal unbuffed attacks, crits are usually 4.5k, 2.5k, 4.5k.

While I reported this both in game, to the devs, and on the forums, the issues described above do indeed appear to be happening on live as well.

I'd be happy to provide the relevant sections of the parses if anyone is interested.

Chunggun's Avatar

09.28.2012 , 12:01 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Fremoc View Post
Mind linking that thread? I wouldn't mind putting a bump on that.
As you requested, sir:

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09.29.2012 , 04:21 PM | #6
I can say I'm finding myself in trouble with my commando, It seems I'm out of ammo much faster and easier than before... And it must not be only the railshot/HIB bonus thing because I'm sometimes already down on ammo after finishing a simple 3 grav round rotation. I'm not completely empty, ofc, but it seems that the normal regeneration ticks (and perhaps the talented 6 second one) are not working correctly or with a wrong timer.

Chunggun's Avatar

09.29.2012 , 09:55 PM | #7
Make sure to report this in the cs forum. I have a thread on the issue. See previous post for the link.

Sudo's Avatar

10.01.2012 , 12:12 PM | #8
Ah ok so isn't just me.

I'm still leveling my Merc, but it was around lvl 32 before 1.4 and just a few warzones and I noticed I had my heat built up about 3-4 abilities faster than normal.. very odd.

Not very scientific, but it is something I've noticed as well.

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10.03.2012 , 06:54 PM | #9
I am experiencing the same heat problems.. I just posted on the csr thread.
You stack em up, I burn em down !

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10.03.2012 , 07:07 PM | #10
The only heat build up I am noticing is due to constantly having to switch targets in TFB. Managing quite well otherwise.

Well, that and Barrage not proc'ing for a full cool down of Unload, meaning I need to put in a Rapid Shots or two. That's annoying as hell.